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Great descriptions and your screenshots are very helpful. I'm enjoying this.

Careful with the "depth is safe" assumption, sonobuoys can deploy both over and under the layer, and TASS/VDS sonar both listens under the layer in tandem with the ship's hull sonar and has no baffles blind zone.

So, ironically, if you are shadowing an advanced ASW unit, you are sometimes safer over the layer; since you can go in to his baffles only in that depth bracket.

By the way most of the soviet ASW ships in this scenario are NOT advanced so you are probably safer deep under, but you still have to worry about sonobuoys, also remember that where there is an active sonobuoy, almost always are plenty of passive ones you cannot see; so be very careful.

I don't know how realistic it is (perhaps a submariner in the forum can tell us), but I have found in numerous occasions that the only way to survive an intense air ASW search (the dreaded "blanket of sonobuoys") is going within the layer and keep it slow.

Of course you are mostly blind yourself (albeit if you are carrying a TASS you can still listen under the layer, and of course you can stop and go to periscope for some minutes every now and then) but for transit and evasion it has become my SOP, because I have found no other effective means of survival.

Ancalagon

C3K and Ancalagon451,

Thanks for the kind words and ideas. Dealing with the sonobouy is going to be a good challenge. As the post above said, my initial thought was to go deep and slow. I've been reading posts in the war room and think that maybe trying to get into the layer is a really good idea (Ancalagon451, sounds like you are right.)

As always, I wish I had more time to play...

Have a good day,

I tried to avoid contact, many times, but the Whale got hit and sunk... Damn.

The Tunny has been searching for the other Delta since the Whale was sunk. Not much happened, and then it got busy!

Not long after

My AAR.

Now I have to decide if I go back to finding the Delta and trying to track it or to move to the next scenario.

Mike

One thought is that in a contested area such as this, using your Subroc gaves the bad guys instant information on where you are.

Engaging with a torpedo exposes you to passive sonars that are in range to hear the transient - it is dangerous yes; but if you're right up the baffles of the target you have a decent chance of getting away undetected, that is if you remain undetected getting into his baffles. Results may vary based on your opponent!

Firing your Subroc however, allows every surface and airborne radar in the area to pinpoint the exact spot where you are at that instant, and really narrows down their search area.

Just a thought.

B

Bart,

Very good point!

I decided to retry from the point of discovery of the first Delta. I stayed away from the Subroc...