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RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
by wodin
I agree, you do really need a decent size screen, bigger the better.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:43 am
by MrsWargamer
One of my favourite wargame developer examples (I'm just saying he's a good example), is Ron Dockal.

Just a guy working at home on a great game design. His wife helps out in the process. His real income isn't his games.

Great product. He's no minor game creator.

His games look shamelessly like old school board games. If you won't read the manual, don't expect to get anywhere. It is NOT coming to hand held devices any time soon. Doesn't have an AI, and there is no plan to make one. It's a hard core wargamers wargame. And a hard core wargamer doesn't need to be told it is out there, they'd already know (comes from their being hard core eh).

I have no idea why Fantasy sports is so damned interesting to sports fans. I don't 'need' to know. I couldn't care less about sports.
I'm a hard core war gamer. I use custom tweezers to move stacks of counters around, I have my special gaming dice of many colours. 100 bucks for a set of plexiglass sheets of variuous sizes to lay on mapsheets is just a common item to me. Spending days clipping counters is nothing.

There are things wargamers will do, and some things we simply won't do :)
The key to marketing to us, is to understand we don't care how non wargames are marketed to non wargamers :)

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:17 am
by DonCzirr
Thanks Kuokkanen - I'll use those specs as a frame of reference on where to start from if I am inclined to get a Windows tablet in the future.

As I am home most of the time taking care of my son, the Steamlink method works just fine.

Last night for me was an off night for war gaming so I played Pillars of Eternity on my Android. Smooth and enjoyable.


One other thing to mention (to folks considering Steamlink) is that you can use it as a nice desktop emulator as well.

So for my JTS wargames, I just enable desktop and can play Panzer Campaigns, Napoleon series etc ...


Just watch out for older games without good Directx 9.0c support - like some of my older AGEOD games (Rise of Prussia etc)

Other AGEOD games like PON and FOG : E work quite well.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:28 pm
by pzgndr
ORIGINAL: CapnDarwin
Too many folks already complain if a game is over 20 dollars these days even though the economics of it show those 20-60 dollar wargames in the 80s/90s would cost 40-120 bucks in today's dollars adjusting for just standard inflation. If there are indie developers out there making war games, they aren't getting rich from it and that also limits what can be done in terms of ports and localizations and other niffty things like that. It's just the world we live in right now. Maybe one day it will change.

+1

A lot of the complainers need to be reminded about this. It's not like one-man development teams can do what Blizzard Entertainment can do with its World of Warcraft series and other games with hundreds of thousands of paying customers. Our niche computer PC wargame community cannot compare, and certainly not for any new game.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:53 pm
by z1812
ORIGINAL: zakblood

if there was any money to make, then pc developers would still be there, as there not, it speaks for itself

Exactly.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:37 pm
by DonCzirr
ORIGINAL: z1812

ORIGINAL: zakblood

if there was any money to make, then pc developers would still be there, as there not, it speaks for itself

Exactly.


"What's worth doing is worth doing for money". - Gordon Gekko would emphatically agree !


I used to make the case for Slitherine to continue on in the mobile market - but due to the nature of the Android market and
Apple's business practices - I can't make such arguments any longer.

It's a shame however.

Seeing the quality of the IOS releases of Commander The Great War, BA2 and P & S, it's obvious that the platform (from a technical sense) can handle real war games - it's the business end that abysmally fails in such cases.




RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:59 pm
by RFalvo69
ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

One of my favourite wargame developer examples (I'm just saying he's a good example), is Ron Dockal.

Just a guy working at home on a great game design. His wife helps out in the process. His real income isn't his games.

Great product. He's no minor game creator.

His games look shamelessly like old school board games. If you won't read the manual, don't expect to get anywhere. It is NOT coming to hand held devices any time soon. Doesn't have an AI, and there is no plan to make one.

I fully agree about Ron, but his "WWII in Europe" game (*) has an AI.

(*) Totally suggested if you are a fan of classic tabletop titles like the "Europa" series. BTW.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:15 pm
by MrsWargamer
ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

One of my favourite wargame developer examples (I'm just saying he's a good example), is Ron Dockal.

Just a guy working at home on a great game design. His wife helps out in the process. His real income isn't his games.

Great product. He's no minor game creator.

His games look shamelessly like old school board games. If you won't read the manual, don't expect to get anywhere. It is NOT coming to hand held devices any time soon. Doesn't have an AI, and there is no plan to make one.

I fully agree about Ron, but his "WWII in Europe" game (*) has an AI.

(*) Totally suggested if you are a fan of classic tabletop titles like the "Europa" series. BTW.

Did not realize that. Was planning to get next month when my budget is not preoccupied with the wedding.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:54 am
by namanjohnson101
HELLO EVERYONE,


Hello. I've been seeing all of these Android phones coming out with really good specs and really good performance plus the designs and features are amazing. Apple has seem to have stalled on brining anything great to the iPhone. I've been thinking about leaving the IOS ecosystem only because I don't feel like I'm getting what I'm paying for. So why would you leave the ecosystem ?


RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:51 am
by Zovs
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RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:17 am
by zakblood
joined both sites at the same time, and not 100% sure on this one, as it didn't ring any alarm bells straight away tbh, so left it when i first saw it, and has yet to post on the other forum, so judgment in waiting tbh

but you maybe right, but not enough for me to go on atm

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:17 am
by Lobster
ORIGINAL: RFalvo69


I fully agree about Ron, but his "WWII in Europe" game (*) has an AI.

(*) Totally suggested if you are a fan of classic tabletop titles like the "Europa" series. BTW.

Have all three. WWII Europe is definitely the best.

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:18 pm
by Kuokkanen
Zovs, don't be rude [:-]

ORIGINAL: namanjohnson101

HELLO EVERYONE,


Hello. I've been seeing all of these Android phones coming out with really good specs and really good performance plus the designs and features are amazing. Apple has seem to have stalled on brining anything great to the iPhone. I've been thinking about leaving the IOS ecosystem only because I don't feel like I'm getting what I'm paying for. So why would you leave the ecosystem ?
First off, this forum is (mostly) for discussion about war (strategy) games. Also I'm not leaving iPhone ecosystem and I bought new iPhone 8 just some months ago. My prime reason keeping with iPhones is I've got e-books on them which are unlikely to work on Android. Apple has its own e-book store you see, and (to my knowledge) it and its contents work only on Apple's products. I have tried using iPhone 4 to play games, and I rather use it reading e-books and PDF files instead.

zakblood, what sites did you join?

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 pm
by zakblood
there's only 3 forums, so one of the others

RE: Why neglecting IOS?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:26 pm
by Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: zakblood

there's only 3 forums, so one of the others
Where are only 3 forums? [&:]
I know more than a dozen