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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:24 pm
by ncc1701e
Euh... Just look at the same area in a "real" map:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/

Just look at Antwerpen and Brussel position between a real map and WP map.
Just look at the distance between Antwerpen and Rotterdam.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:53 pm
by Simulacra53
The scale is challenging for the smaller countries, we have to accept it, but that does not make it easier on the eye and mind.
Again OT for this thread.
Good work on the mods.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:00 pm
by Uxbridge
Maybe Rotterdam should have been one hex closer to Amsterdam, but it's not vital and there may be game considerations for creating a space between the two. Mind also that it's the hexes that dictates the location, not the city or port symbols. If you want to seee something odd, though, look at my poor country. [:)]

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:59 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Simulacra53

The scale is challenging for the smaller countries, we have to accept it, but that does not make it easier on the eye and mind.

Well no I do not accept it. For a minor country like Germany, having Essen at the same latitude than Amsterdam... Even with a Gall Peter map projection, I have some serious doubts.

We are in 2019. We have all the resources to make serious maps.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:09 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

Maybe Rotterdam should have been one hex closer to Amsterdam, but it's not vital and there may be game considerations for creating a space between the two

Rotterdam in particular is absolutely not in Belgium. The border is misplaced in this case.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:17 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

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Just compare.

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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:18 pm
by Uxbridge
Essen should move down a hex, but I think Antwerp and Rotterdam looks fine. Putting the latter further North will only swing the inproper placement the other way, and one will loose the polder-hex between them.

Not for me to decide; it's up to Alvaro.

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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:21 pm
by Uxbridge
To return to the original purpose of this thread, does anyone have a list of the nationality for units on the units.png? I don't know but a token of the flags, and in some cases they are difficult to make out. Knowing what row is what country, would be of good assistance.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:30 pm
by mroyer
does anyone have a list of the nationality for units on the units.png

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4712920

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:14 am
by Uxbridge
Oh, thank you – both for telling and posting the list. I saw your original posting of the thread, and have read the last posts in it, but never realized there were two lists in it. Now I can make some changes to units likely to see service in the European theatre.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:19 am
by mroyer
but never realized there were two lists in it.

Glad to help! And, yeah, it's very easy to miss stuff in these meandering threads.

-Mark R.


RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:52 pm
by Uxbridge
Added the HQ-look I had in Strategic Command and gave units more nationality flags.

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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:10 pm
by Uxbridge
USSR, North, 1941.

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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:01 pm
by ncc1701e
Nice, maybe put some more red inside for the mechanized Russian units, not black. But, I realize this may be generic for every country.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:29 pm
by Uxbridge
To make them 2-component, rather than 3-component? I think they will loose depth that way. And like the mind to spot all motorized units from the black center.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:34 pm
by ncc1701e
I was thinking of something like this. Below a quick and dirty example on one mechanized unit of your above screenshot at Novgorod.

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RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:31 pm
by Uxbridge
Frankly, it doesn't look too bad and I'm not following any strict pattern anyway. But I will have the shading slightly different from the base colour.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:44 pm
by Uxbridge
Now you made me change all major countries' mech-units to red. We'll see how it turns out.

And I took the opportunity to change the counter colour of the Turks too. In a moment och evening humour, last time, I made the decision to have it turqouise. But it turned out rather badly. Now corrected to something less fancy.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:49 pm
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Uxbridge

Now you made me change all major countries' mech-units to red. We'll see how it turns out.

Sorry, that was my earlier question knowing if this is generic for every country or not. I think the armor / mechanized can be black for the Germans, but for the Russians, the red could be more attractive.

RE: Air unit distinctions

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:26 pm
by Uxbridge
No, no, there's no problem whatsoever. It's not generic. I have to change every unit manually. But I thought it would look good on the other nations as well. Have you tried them now?