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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:53 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Just to give a SPWaW fan an option to compare, I also suggest you experience Close Combat and The Campaign series from Talonsoft.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:26 am
by Karnaaj
Nice bracketing job, Sarge, SPWAW is pretty much in the middle there. <G> Close Combat (and I *finally* got CC5! Via the gogamer.com link in the CC5 thread) is your individual-unit "real-time tactical" game, while the TalonSoft Campaign stuff is turn-based multiple-unit. (In this case, "individual" (1 unit = 1 tank/gun/squad), versus "multiple" (1 unit = 1 platoon tanks/infantry), and my own slang of "real-time tactical" versus "real-time straegic". Nyaaah.)

From SPWAW (or even SP:MBT, for the "modern age" types <G>), you can slide on up to the larger scale of hexes in the TalonSoft offerings, or back off to where you *can't* just run units out to use up the enemy's available shots, because it's all happening *now*, in CC. (Battlefront's Combat Mission series fits a little off to the side, in my opinion: indiviual units, turns-but-simultaneous-action.)

Interestingly enough, especially for us notoriously-poor wargamers <G>, all three options are *cheap*. SPWAW is free (or nominal cost if someone burns a CD + postage), unless you get a MegaCampaign (worth the price, from what I've gotten out of Lost Victories so far; I'll have to get the others - wheee, searching for Rommel's Baja Adventure... <G>). Various of the Close Combat series are available in the "shovelware" discount racks, or new/used in the "get it outta here" sections, as are the TalonSoft games. (I've got to watch for the second West Front expansion, too.)

SP1 & SP2 are also available cheap'n'easy, still in the SPWAW "individual"/turn-based slot, while SP3 is "multiple"/turn-based. (Not that I ever got my copy to *run*, mind you. <sigh> Methinks it dislikes Win98SE or my video cards... Windows version, on CD, bought off the discount rack a couple years back.)

Good ghod, I'm long-winded at times. <G>

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:22 pm
by The MSG
Originally posted by Resisti
If you're looking for FREE games, look here:

http://www.theunderdogs.org/

Many are old, but there's something worthing to be downloaded for sure.


You are of course refering to http://www.the-underdogs.org/

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:43 pm
by kungfucheez
lol yeah thats the site

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:48 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Note the "-" in the name, resulting in losing control of a domain name or something like that.

For those that like the site and actually want to hear the sites modest history, check out the story more fully here over at Military Gamer...
http://www.militarygameronline.com/insi ... &artid=212

Karnaaj did you say you had trouble with SP3 in 98SE?

Man that has to suck. I mean the only reason 98 SE is on a wretched corner of my computer, is so I can still run a few petulant prorams that give enough attitude in XP its not worth it (anymore than trying to convince a teenager you're right hehe).

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 12:27 am
by Karnaaj
Les: I run 98SE normally. <G> As I recall, when I got SP3, I was running either 95 or 98SE on a PII box with a Voodoo3 card. which may have been part of the problem. (It was even the Windows version of the game; the only patch I could find tries to run in DOS and dies a horrible death.) I only really wanted it to run some mods, specifically the earlier SPWW2 that required SP3 at the time, and the War of the Worlds mod. <G> Might have to dig it out and see if I still have those probs on the PIII/GeForce3 box... I still have that hankerin' to take on them Martians...