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Somebody ought to tell them....we'd really like a War in Europe....combining The west and the east! Come on...you can do it.

ORIGINAL: mesquite5

Somebody ought to tell them....we'd really like a War in Europe....combining The west and the east! Come on...you can do it.

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And while you're at it...fold in Bombing the Reich, too. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: mesquite5

Somebody ought to tell them....we'd really like a War in Europe....combining The west and the east! Come on...you can do it.

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And while you're at it...fold in Bombing the Reich, too. [:D]

War In Europe, like WITP-AE. Have it cover the ETO, Afrika, and the North Atlantic.

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: mesquite5

Somebody ought to tell them....we'd really like a War in Europe....combining The west and the east! Come on...you can do it.

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And while you're at it...fold in Bombing the Reich, too. [:D]

It's already there.

Should I just give you guys access to my bank accounts now? You're going to get all my money, anyway!

[:D][:D]

Nice detailed explanation very informative & helpful

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ORIGINAL: larrybush

Since I own War in the East, why would I be interested in War in the East 2? What it going to do that requires a new title?

I think they are going to make it more complicated. And they are adding in that awful air system from WITW.

Actually the air system for WitW is really not that bad once you get the hang of it.

We'll be revealing new features in time, but I guarantee if you have WITE you will be interested in WITE2 once you read about all the improvements.

Never guarantee things. If WITE2 takes more time to play than WITE, I will NOT be interested. I loved Grigsby's early games but when I realized it would take me an entire day to play 1 day of the Bombing the Reich campaign (in 1999), I realized he had lost touch with me. Couldn't even get to autumn 1941 in WITE before losing interest (of course I restarted twice to correct mistakes).

Well, I wouldn't have said that if I weren't sure that it will have a very broad appeal among wargamers who enjoyed WITE. However, you're right to say that preferences can vary widely. Let me rephrase and just say that I am very sure.

ORIGINAL: Zovs

Actually the air system for WitW is really not that bad once you get the hang of it.

Its bad listen to the three moves ahead podcast episode on WITW they agree.

The air system doesn't seem to bad to me. I don't go to deep into the nuts and bolts of the air system but people can if they want to, and the results don't seem awful when the computer runs it. Thing is, is that there are plenty of lighter wargames, games with less detail, games that take less time but not to many people making the highly detailed monster games. What I always appreciated about WITE/WITW is that there really not that hard to play, you can go into highly detailed play if you want to, taking hours for your turns but it's not required. I've had WITE for quite a few years now, and maybe put in about 500 hours into it and I've never played the grand campaign......yet, hope to one day, it's a bridge to far for me right now. I've had plenty of fun playing the smaller scenarios, especially the " Road to" scenarios. Of course YMMV.

I didn't get WITE on release, not for a few years, there wasn't that many smaller scenarios in release to justify the premium price of the game for me. I hope there are a bunch of "Road to" scenarios , but if not, I'll wait.

ORIGINAL: comte

ORIGINAL: Zovs

Actually the air system for WitW is really not that bad once you get the hang of it.

Its bad listen to the three moves ahead podcast episode on WITW they agree.

lets be clear - you and some others find it problemmatic? Ok, fair opinion but that is what it is. I like the WiTW air model, the whole strategic air war would be utterly unplayable if it was based around the WiTE1 air systems. You lose some of the obsessive micro-control that the WiTE1 model allows and need to replace it with a bit of preplanning.

I can do a WiTW campaign airphase as the allies in around 10 mins once I have the OOB in place, I'd still be clicking on recon flights in WiTE1.

ORIGINAL: comte

ORIGINAL: Zovs

Actually the air system for WitW is really not that bad once you get the hang of it.

Its bad listen to the three moves ahead podcast episode on WITW they agree.

Sorry but really don’t care about some pod castors opinions, I can make up my own mind.

I am basing my own experience with the new WITW air system and after watching the four provided tutorial videos and playing 4 games thus far I stand by what I stated.

The air system is really not that bad or hard to use. Works just fine.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Well, I wouldn't have said that if I weren't sure that it will have a very broad appeal among wargamers who enjoyed WITE. However, you're right to say that preferences can vary widely. Let me rephrase and just say that I am very sure.

While your at it Eric, see if 2 by 3 can do a remake of War Between the States somewhat like what Strategic Command did in remaking SCWWI going from tiles to hexes. whereas WBTS could go from WEGO to hexes.

ORIGINAL: operating
whereas WBTS could go from WEGO to hexes.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

ORIGINAL: operating
whereas WBTS could go from WEGO to hexes.

Ya, I knew that was a bit of a "stretch", however the idea is to do a remake of the game, or possibly for 2by3 to create a new approach for a Civil War game, maybe like WITE, or perhaps a dressed down version of WITE in a Civil War setting. Is it too much to ask? Or not?