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At the risk of stating the obvious, I would like to remind people that it would pretty easy to write a whole bunch of World War II scenarios right now...there are dozens of platforms in the CWDB that are for ships, planes, etc. built before or during World War II. (As I recall, there is a Soviet battleship from 1911.)

As for platforms that are not in the database yet, I would recommend NOT requesting an entire WWII package (a huge amount of work for the developers) but simply identifying specific ships, aircraft, etc. that are needed for a particular scenario. That way, one by one, and two by two, they can be added. The Cold War database will soon swell to include many more World War II and 1940s alternate history platforms.

Then we can start on the World War I platforms.

Slowly, but surely, we will assimilate history. [:)]

I've actually been wanting to create a "Battle of the San Bernardino Strait" scenario ever since first buying the original game. Heck, one of the first requests I made in CWDB was for the Yamato-class battleships that would be the star of the show but they still haven't shown up yet...

Not sure if the issue is just adding units to the DB, but programing a realistic WW2 combat model for the AI. For example, proper dive bombing and close in dog fighting has been mentioned before.

ORIGINAL: StellarRat

It's over. The Allies won.

[:D]

ORIGINAL: Ancalagon451
That's because there are already a bajillion of WW2 themed games in the market, ranging from individual squad member to national grand strategy level and all in between. And even more are being released while I write these lines.

So most WW2 enthusiasts don't need CMO to scratch their itch...

This is simply not not true for naval/air warfare at this level of detail, at this scale, and for a variety of nations. In fact, as far as I am aware, there are not ANY games released in recent times dealing with anything remotely like the scope/depth of CMO. If you don't like WWII, OK, but pls don't claim that "there are plenty of existing options".

ORIGINAL: wodin
WW2 was mentioned by developers during CMO release...

Indeed...it would be nice if they would provide a bit more detail about their plans...

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ORIGINAL: Ancalagon451
That's because there are already a bajillion of WW2 themed games in the market, ranging from individual squad member to national grand strategy level and all in between. And even more are being released while I write these lines.

So most WW2 enthusiasts don't need CMO to scratch their itch...

This is simply not not true for naval/air warfare at this level of detail, at this scale, and for a variety of nations. In fact, as far as I am aware, there are not ANY games released in recent times dealing with anything remotely like the scope/depth of CMO. If you don't like WWII, OK, but pls don't claim that "there are plenty of existing options".

ORIGINAL: wodin
WW2 was mentioned by developers during CMO release...

Indeed...it would be nice if they would provide a bit more detail about their plans...

War in the Pacific Admirals Edition right here at Matrix games is at least as detailed as CMO....[8D]

edit: granted not a "recent" game but still probably the best grand strategic, naval-centric game ever made(imho)

still probably the best grand strategic, naval-centric game ever made(imho)

No argument there, but it is certainly not the same scale nor is tactical combat handled with the precision it is in CMO.

I am not a huge proponent of distracting CMO developer resources to WW2 efforts but there is certainly a group of players who are keenly interested in that. I suspect the Devs have a good idea of the market and how much effort to apply. It takes time but they've come through with many, many things we've asked for in the past.

Okay for Pacific but what about Atlantic and Mediterranean sea, there is no real WITPAE option there.

ORIGINAL: bobbackwards
War in the Pacific Admirals Edition right here at Matrix games is at least as detailed as CMO....[8D]

But of course it is a completely different game, at a different scale, and covers only the Pacific theater. Yeah, so who needs CMO WWII? [8|]

ORIGINAL: kevinkins

Not sure if the issue is just adding units to the DB, but programing a realistic WW2 combat model for the AI. For example, proper dive bombing and close in dog fighting has been mentioned before.

I cant offer a solution to the issue of effective close air to air combat, but one way around the issue of the dive bombing AI, would be to clone an existing entry of say the M65 bomb thats used by US Avengers and Dauntless bombers, changing the max-min release altitudes to say between 12-15000ft and change the POH to greater than the original entry by a percentage. After that its a case of creating the loadouts for each aircraft, its not an inconsiderable amount of work but you arent having to start from a clean slate, its copying and amending existing loadouts and database entries.

That said I agree I would prefer the devs to work on the modern aspects to command , but thats just a personal preference.

Regards

Butch

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ORIGINAL: StellarRat
It's over. The Allies won.

Call your shots! I nearly spat my morning milk out all over the computer screen, I laughed so hard...
[:D]
Thanks for the laugh!

Well so much for your manners, shouldn't be eating breakfast in front of your computer serve yourself right, get back to the kitchen/dining room table!![:D]

Laughter...
How can I eat at the table when I have half a dozen A-4s bearing down on a Kirov Class battlecruiser...
Incidentally: they got through but bombed the wrong ship...

Hmmm...at least my [CMO]\DB\Images has a folder called "WW2DB" containing a file named PlaceHolder. [:)] Not sure if it has always been there.

Its been there at least since CMO was released.