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RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:05 pm
by Almeron
it costs 25% of land forces to invade about.

I don't understand. Landing ships cost 15 PP/10 unit. So a full german corps (30 strong corps) need 45 PP, for 30 landing ship.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:30 pm
by AlvaroSousa
landing ships are 15 production for 10 points.
A large corps costs 45 points of landing ships.
A large corps costs 180

45 / 180 = .25 = 25% of the cost of building a large corps.

Armor....
They will now require 60 landing craft to invade which costs 90 production
90 / 360 = .25 = 25% of the cost of building an armor

As the war progresses and techs of units along with economies these costs drop by ratio which abstractly represents better technology with invasions.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:35 pm
by MVokt
I have been reading for some time this game forum and it appears that it's veteran wargamers which are more unsatisfied with some aspects of the game whilst newer or less experienced wargamers think that the game is excellent. This is a fact and also a clue.

My opinion is that the game has potential but right now (and at the time of its release) it's sort of an unfinished thing. I once read a review about this game, referring to it as a game that lacks a soul and may be the review really referred to the fact that the game feels like incomplete.

I own the game and haven't had the time to fully get into it but I often visit the forum and read the continuous bug reportings and game balance issues. This early and massive reporting proofs that the game is maybe still incomplete in some (or even in many) aspects.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:37 pm
by Almeron
Oh... never realized armours need more landing ships.
However the cost is still to low, and build time still. Doubling those numbers could solve the hasty invasion question. But that's just an opinion.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:54 pm
by tyronec
AA captured has been replaced by AA killed. I also added that any land unit can move AA.
The movement cost issue has been fixed.
Im fairly certain the losses screen has been fixed in the beta unless something new came up I don't know about
Am playing Beta h4, HvH games, and none of these are working right.
Did you do upload a later fix ?

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:17 pm
by ThunderLizard11
I'm still new to WP but the OP has some good points. I'm just not liking it as much as SC-WiE or WaW. Part of that is just learning the new systems. Glad to see Alvaro is working like mad on this and will give it another go after the next beta is ready.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:42 pm
by AlvaroSousa
I have not uploaded the fixes yet. later today.

I find the opposite. Most older wargamers like me like it and it is the younger ones who are upset. Usually those who have played many 1 unit 1 click wargames like PanzerCorps or Unity of Command.

I'll know when my 3rd months of sales comes out Friday. So far 2 great sales month better than expected. So it is on the right track.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:10 pm
by ThunderLizard11
ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

I have not uploaded the fixes yet. later today.

I find the opposite. Most older wargamers like me like it and it is the younger ones who are upset. Usually those who have played many 1 unit 1 click wargames like PanzerCorps or Unity of Command.

I'll know when my 3rd months of sales comes out Friday. So far 2 great sales month better than expected. So it is on the right track.

Glad to hear sales are going well!

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:55 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Yep another good month of sales.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:05 pm
by PanzerMike
Congrats then for you, Alvaro! And for us, for getting a good game (that keeps getting better with each passing week).

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:15 pm
by MorningDew
ORIGINAL: PanzerMike

Congrats then for you, Alvaro! And for us, for getting a good game (that keeps getting better with each passing week).

+1

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:56 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Thanks

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:51 pm
by tigercub
Alvaro truly a great game just need polisher and take it all over to the Pacific!

Tigercub

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:11 pm
by ago1000
ORIGINAL: AndrewKurtz

ORIGINAL: PanzerMike

Congrats then for you, Alvaro! And for us, for getting a good game (that keeps getting better with each passing week).

+1
+1

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:28 am
by Michael T
I am moving on too. The game is just not what I wanted it to be. It's just too ahistorical for my tastes. But it was fun for a while. Good luck guys. See you around the forums. Steel Tigers will be my next new PC game I think. Meanwhile it's back to ASL via vassal and JTS Panzer Campaigns. Ciao

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:20 am
by PanzerMike
I am just getting started. The game received a lot of bugfixing and improving. I love it. But to each their own.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:24 am
by Meteor2
ORIGINAL: Michael T

I am moving on too. The game is just not what I wanted it to be. It's just too ahistorical for my tastes. But it was fun for a while. Good luck guys. See you around the forums. Steel Tigers will be my next new PC game I think. Meanwhile it's back to ASL via vassal and JTS Panzer Campaigns. Ciao

Unfortunately.
The contribution of some very active players (and you have been one of them) has moved the game in the right direction.
Alvaro is reading and reacting, so your input has value. Do not give up to early. [8|]

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:46 am
by MorningDew
ORIGINAL: Michael T

I am moving on too. The game is just not what I wanted it to be. It's just too ahistorical for my tastes. But it was fun for a while. Good luck guys. See you around the forums. Steel Tigers will be my next new PC game I think. Meanwhile it's back to ASL via vassal and JTS Panzer Campaigns. Ciao

I am curious - before you go, what is the ahistorical list other than armor invasions too early?

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:57 pm
by AlvaroSousa
If there is something you don't like about the game it is flexible enough to house rule it with another player. When I was young my entire group of friends did this to make the game better.

RE: I'm giving up on this game

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:20 pm
by iDachs
ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

Yep another good month of sales.

Good to read. I hope your game continues to enjoy good sales, it certainly deserves it!