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RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:42 pm
by AlvaroSousa
ORIGINAL: Stego
In the manual there's no reference to "cold months". Which are?
The information panel only indicates "Rain" for that hex, nothing about cold. It is not just the icon.
So USA can't invade North Africa in Nov 42?
page 47 of the 1.00.06 manual
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:49 pm
by AlvaroSousa
ORIGINAL: dcinlassen
the window for production under landing ships states that one landing point can move one health point of a unit. where is the value for the health points located and is it different from the combat value on the unit counter?
That's a typo. Should be 1 landing craft for 1 strength, double for armor and mech.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:51 pm
by dcinlassen
i see no where in the manual where health points are mentioned, only in the production window..how do I predict how many landing craft a unit will need? something does not seem right here, it is very confusing
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:53 pm
by AlvaroSousa
I stand corrected. Landing craft cost is per current strength point not maximum potential strength point. I was checking the code.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:53 pm
by dcinlassen
thank you, I understand it now, so why did an infantry unit cost me 30 to land?
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:07 am
by Stego
ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa
page 47 of the 1.00.06 manual
OK, thanks. I was consulting the original manual.
What are the months when snow or blizzard are possible?
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:16 am
by AlvaroSousa
Any month that has a possibility of snow. Just look at the weather PDF
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by PDiFolco
Doesn't work for me as well, inf unit refuses to unload when clicking on the beach hex; no error message as I have the 10 landing pts for my division; just naught happens when clicking. Weather is rainy...
Made me lose half of the KM, that's a real pain !
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:03 pm
by OxfordGuy3
I'm also having some problems with Norway, as a test, on September 1 1939, after declaring war on Norway, I embarked the German division on the North Sea coast, and moved it to just north of Bergen, on beach hex 151, 81. The transport has moved less than 24 hexes and has one operational point left. When I click on Show invasion/Disembark hexes, none are shown (see attached screenshot), yet I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to to invade the beach hex. I can reproduce this every time. I have no such problems if I try to invade hexes near to Stavanger or Oslo. I have 10 landing craft points available and weather is not cold. What is the problem here?
NB: this is with the latest beta version
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:52 pm
by PDiFolco
ORIGINAL: OxfordGuy3
I'm also having some problems with Norway, as a test, on September 1 1939, after declaring war on Norway, I embarked the German division on the North Sea coast, and moved it to just north of Bergen, on beach hex 151, 81. The transport has moved less than 24 hexes and has one operational point left. When I click on Show invasion/Disembark hexes, none are shown (see attached screenshot), yet I'm pretty sure I ought to be able to to invade the beach hex. I can reproduce this every time. I have no such problems if I try to invade hexes near to Stavanger or Oslo. I have 10 landing craft points available and weather is not cold. What is the problem here?
NB: this is with the latest beta version
Got the same exact issue (my post above) but on official 1.06 ... thx for the screenshot, it's more visual
Anyway it's game breaking, how can one win a game without working invasions ?
And the UI for invasion is real bad and confusing, it'll be much clearer to declare invading land units first and highlight possible destinations ...
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:06 pm
by sillyflower
I can do the invade on T1 but then can't actually take Oslo on T2 so it's a bit of a of a disaster. That's the bit Alvaro did not show in his demo, but went off to get p#ssed[X(]
Can't complain though. It would be a bit too ahistorical even for this game.........
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:00 pm
by OxfordGuy3
I don't mind the UI so much, just don't understand why in some places you can't seem to land when, even though all the requirements seem to be met
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:36 pm
by Dalwin
Part of the problem is that not only is the entire system unintuitive, but the failure message is not at all helpful. It really does not tell you why you are unable to invade. If it is because Norway is neutral it should say that. If it is because you don't have enough landing craft, it should directly say that instead.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:42 pm
by PDiFolco
I've continued to test : seems that you CANNOT invade in Rain, without any message (!), it works only in Clear weather ...a bit strange ...It's Invasion : No Way [:D]
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:42 pm
by AlvaroSousa
I forgot a weather icon when we changed invasion rules. That icon now clearly tells you that landing spot can't be invaded due to weather. The beta version has the icon fix.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:03 pm
by OxfordGuy3
ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa
I forgot a weather icon when we changed invasion rules. That icon now clearly tells you that landing spot can't be invaded due to weather. The beta version has the icon fix.
But in the problem case I gave, the weather was clear and not cold...
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:03 pm
by PDiFolco
ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa
I forgot a weather icon when we changed invasion rules. That icon now clearly tells you that landing spot can't be invaded due to weather. The beta version has the icon fix.
Thanks ! So is the rule that only Clear can allow invasion, or is (light) Rain allowed as well ?
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:37 pm
by Dalwin
ORIGINAL: sillyflower
I can do the invade on T1 but then can't actually take Oslo on T2 so it's a bit of a of a disaster. That's the bit Alvaro did not show in his demo, but went off to get p#ssed[X(]
Can't complain though. It would be a bit too ahistorical even for this game.........
What I did when invading was to land one division on the west side and airdrop one from Copenhagen to the east side. Between the two they are easily strong enough to take Oslo. In fact, the paradrop by itself might be enough.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:31 pm
by AlvaroSousa
The hex the fleet is in is where the weather is applied if I remember. So many rules.
You can't invade in Clear(cold), Rain(cold), heavy rain, snow, or blizzard.
You can invade in clear and rain. You take more damage invading in rain.
RE: Can't Invade Norway
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:40 am
by OxfordGuy3
Still doesn't explain why hex 151,81(which is a beach) still can't be invaded in clear (not cold) weather with a Division, when 10 landing craft are available, as in my example above. This is still the case for the 1.00.7U51 beta too