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RE: GRANT
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:49 am
by balto
Nimrod 9th, your comments in box 3 about the 'buttons' and the 'side of where the cartridges go', etc.., I was at a place that had a large amount of Civil War paintings, almost everyone in there but me was making the same type of "detailed comments' like you about the paintings.
One guy commented on how in a painting of Mosby's Raiders, the windows in one of the building was not the exact type of window pane of that still standing building!!! Not kidding.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:51 am
by balto
for some reason, part of my post above is being cut off. No big deal, just letting you know.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:50 am
by Nimrod 9th
When I see/hear/read about something I know about and catch mistakes (big or small) it makes me wonder what mistakes are being made about the things I don't know much about. The uniform/cartridge box didn't bother me. Figured it was "Hollywood" (or an "extra" getting dressed too fast) and felt it didn't distract. After all show wasn't about uniforms. It was about Grant. But the "delay" thing bothered me a lot and wrong position for Sherman a little. Showed either a lack of research or poor historical advise from the historical advisor or poor decision making by the director/producer/whoever who decided to use those words. The "delay" bothered me much more than wrong position. It isn't that big of deal in a film Grant to call Sherman a corps commander. After all, he did become one soon after. If it was about Sherman that would be different story. The use of the word "delay" gave people a wrong impression of the Battle of Shiloh. And often when that seed is planted it can be hard to removed. I did enjoy the series and glad Grant is beginning to get the credit he deserves for his successes and importance/impact to our country.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:11 pm
by Hellen_slith
ORIGINAL: Randomizer
U.S. Grant on the History Channel?
I had never realized that he must have owned a monster truck built by ancient space aliens to deliver non-existent buried treasure acquired while looking for Hitler to his overpriced pawn and vintage auto restoration/motorcycle chop shop. Somebody screwed up and there has to be a mistake somewhere if any history is shown on the HC.
Anyway, thanks for the heads up, will check it out at some point.
-C
LoL, quite true, I usually only watch History Channel for Ancient Astronaut stuff lately.
But, the Grant series was pretty well done I think, well enough for me to watch it and spur interest in reading about him.
I recommend.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 am
by Rodwonder
I liked it... Overall it was well done with a few details left out but not bad.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:03 am
by Curtis Lemay
I didn't care for the way Robert E. Lee was treated, or the South in general. Probably due to an influx of leftist history profs, that has steadily deteriorated over the last few decades.
The new ridiculous standard is now being applied to him: He is now being judged by the relative percentage losses he incurred instead of the gross losses. So, since Grant outnumbered him by 2 to 1, he needed to inflict double losses on Grant, just to break even and be considered average!
By that line of reasoning, the Spartans at Thermopylae were tactical idiots, since they lost their entire command, while the Persians only lost a fraction of theirs. Never mind that their gross losses were 300, and the Persians lost thousands.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:46 am
by kingstuart444
I finished up the series last nite. I thought it was very good as I did not know much about him.
Two side comments. Seemed like half the two hours were commercials or promos for the remaining part of the show.
Glad I had it dvr’d.
Also in the battle scenes what is with all the soldiers getting shot in the head. Is that really how it was done back then?
Overdone and disturbing for the young.
RE: GRANT
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:12 pm
by demyansk
I agree, I hate the pc culture
RE: GRANT
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:31 pm
by MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay
I didn't care for the way Robert E. Lee was treated, or the South in general. Probably due to an influx of leftist history profs, that has steadily deteriorated over the last few decades.
The new ridiculous standard is now being applied to him: He is now being judged by the relative percentage losses he incurred instead of the gross losses. So, since Grant outnumbered him by 2 to 1, he needed to inflict double losses on Grant, just to break even and be considered average!
By that line of reasoning, the Spartans at Thermopylae were tactical idiots, since they lost their entire command, while the Persians only lost a fraction of theirs. Never mind that their gross losses were 300, and the Persians lost thousands.
Totally agree.
RR
RE: GRANT
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:03 am
by Gilmer
ORIGINAL: kingstuart
I finished up the series last nite. I thought it was very good as I did not know much about him.
Two side comments. Seemed like half the two hours were commercials or promos for the remaining part of the show.
Glad I had it dvr’d.
Also in the battle scenes what is with all the soldiers getting shot in the head. Is that really how it was done back then?
Overdone and disturbing for the young.
You can stream it if your cable gets the channel. No commercials.