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RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:01 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ARA La Argetina is correct! Photo taken at New Orleans on August 8, 1945....Argentina had joined the Allies in March, so I suppose she was in New Orleans for a refit
She was a modified Arethusa-class, lengthened to support additional berthing for training cadets
warspite1
...so nothing like most Royal Navy cruisers of the time M_M [;)].... I smell a rat [:-]
ARA La Argentina
Built by the British, and does show very similar hull and turret layout. The superstructure different though.
warspite1
Sorry I disagree. The Arethusas were an experiment in making the smallest practical cruiser. The three turrets alone mean that the class are dissimilar to RN cruisers of the time. Only during the war did three turrets become the vogue again in order to make room for other weaponry.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:10 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Wow, quick identification! It's hard to fool this group
I love this game...can anyone guess this ship?
@warspite
The floatplane is the biggest clue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Walrus
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:21 pm
by Q-Ball
MM is right, if you blow the photo up a bit, you can make out the insignia on the wings of the Walrus. It's an anchor, unusual but it was what the Argentine Navy used on their aircraft
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:31 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
MM is right, if you blow the photo up a bit, you can make out the insignia on the wings of the Walrus. It's an anchor, unusual but it was what the Argentine Navy used on their aircraft
warspite1
I'm not saying he isn't or it isn't. I am simply saying that deducing this was La Argentina from the fact that all RN CL of the period looked similar is....er... how can I put it?..... Well I sure as hell wouldn't put money on that being the reason [:D]
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 pm
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
MM is right, if you blow the photo up a bit, you can make out the insignia on the wings of the Walrus. It's an anchor, unusual but it was what the Argentine Navy used on their aircraft
warspite1
I'm not saying he isn't or it isn't. I am simply saying that deducing this was La Argentina from the fact that all RN CL of the period looked similar is....er... how can I put it?..... Well I sure as hell wouldn't put money on that being the reason [:D]
I bet you're fun at the pub quiz.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:25 pm
by Ian R
ORIGINAL: GI Jive
An observation: The picture of the Randolph could not have been taken in 1945. The national insignia on the Bearcat wings include red stripes on the white horizontal bars - a revision that was not authorized until January 1947.
P.S. I never would have figured out either ship. Congrats to those who did.
CV-32 USS USS Leyte visited Istanbul with CVG-7 using the "L" tailcode.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:05 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
MM is right, if you blow the photo up a bit, you can make out the insignia on the wings of the Walrus. It's an anchor, unusual but it was what the Argentine Navy used on their aircraft
warspite1
I'm not saying he isn't or it isn't. I am simply saying that deducing this was La Argentina from the fact that all RN CL of the period looked similar is....er... how can I put it?..... Well I sure as hell wouldn't put money on that being the reason [:D]
I bet you're fun at the pub quiz.
warspite1
WWII history doesn't tend to feature in pub quizzes [:(]
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:27 am
by mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1
I'm not saying he isn't or it isn't. I am simply saying that deducing this was La Argentina from the fact that all RN CL of the period looked similar is....er... how can I put it?..... Well I sure as hell wouldn't put money on that being the reason [:D]
I bet you're fun at the pub quiz.
warspite1
WWII history doesn't tend to feature in pub quizzes [:(]
I ended up in an argument with the host of a pub quiz that "Siam" was an acceptable response to countries with just 4 letters in their name. AE wouldn't lie to me.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:04 am
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: GI Jive
An observation: The picture of the Randolph could not have been taken in 1945. The national insignia on the Bearcat wings include red stripes on the white horizontal bars - a revision that was not authorized until January 1947.
P.S. I never would have figured out either ship. Congrats to those who did.
Good point, but I dont see Leyte going to the Med until too late, assuming the date on the photo is correct. I have seen a photo of Randolph with a front on photo of a Bearcat with a small "20" on the front of the cowling, closest I could get. (And I bet there were hundreds with the same markings)
There are similar photos of Yavuz at the time of the visit by Missouri but no CV are mentioned in the TF.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 pm
by fcooke
Jeff - I took 5 years of Latin and cannot for the life of me figure out what your tag line says......
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:36 pm
by LargeSlowTarget
ORIGINAL: fcooke
Jeff - I took 5 years of Latin and cannot for the life of me figure out what your tag line says......
"Sometimes I have the urge to conquer large parts of Europe".
Just wondering how he expects to do this from down under - would be longest-ranged amphibious assault in history.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:48 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
ORIGINAL: fcooke
Jeff - I took 5 years of Latin and cannot for the life of me figure out what your tag line says......
"Sometimes I have the urge to conquer large parts of Europe".
Just wondering how he expects to do this from down under - would be longest-ranged amphibious assault in history.
Not amphibious - airborne. Note the part about using scads of furious cupids to do the conquering...
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm
by Orm
I suppose that just naming the ship is to easy. So I also ask for when the picture was taken.

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:33 pm
by GetAssista
I know the ship (Dutch minesweeper HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen) but sure as hell I would not remember the date.
So I thought it would be OK to look it up on the all-mighty internet. Wikipedia says it is April 8, 1942
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:45 pm
by Orm
ORIGINAL: GetAssista
I know the ship (Dutch minesweeper HNLMS Abraham Crijnssen) but sure as hell I would not remember the date.
So I thought it would be OK to look it up on the all-mighty internet. Wikipedia says it is April 8, 1942
You got it right. [:)]
I was going to allow any date during the journey to Australia since, I suspect, that the ship looked pretty much the same every day.
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:20 pm
by Orm
Different ship, different place, same idea.

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:39 am
by LargeSlowTarget
Swedish cruiser HSwMS Göta Lejon
edit for spelling
RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:30 am
by Orm
Yes. Or HMS Göta Lejon, as is the Swedish name. [:)] [;)]
And here is a less known picture of her. (Although I think I have posted both a few years back.)

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:10 am
by LargeSlowTarget
I have seen the photo on a World of Warships forum and remembered it as a Swedish ship, but I admit I had to google the name.
I permit myself a little hijack for another cammo ship:

RE: What ship is this?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:40 am
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
I permit myself a little hijack for another cammo ship:
This is a harder one. Some patrol craft. Mackay camo means around WWI and most certainly American.