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RE: Malta
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:19 pm
by battlevonwar
sooooo hard to do unless UK is preoccupied
ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa
Well now you can starve it out of supply.
RE: Malta
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:42 pm
by baloo7777
If using the new rules, can Malta be re-supplied by air?
RE: Malta
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:21 am
by AlvaroSousa
Of course or by ship. You just need a fleet next to it to counter the effect. It forces sea control.
It also applies to completely isolated ports that aren't supply sources but are ports
RE: Malta
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:44 am
by baloo7777
ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa
Of course or by ship. You just need a fleet next to it to counter the effect. It forces sea control.
It also applies to completely isolated ports that aren't supply sources but are ports
So the Island of Rhodes can be starved by an enemy fleet and supplied by a friendly fleet, and could be re-supplied by air, correct?
This will be the same in the Pacific island outposts (WAke, Midway, Guadelcanal, et.al.)?
RE: Malta
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:58 pm
by kennonlightfoot
ORIGINAL: AlvaroSousa
Well now you can starve it out of supply.
Under version 7?
I have had the enemy attacking Malta for almost at least six months now. They have maintained a ring of Italian ships around it with air power as well as on unit on the beach. They have never been at a supply level below "3". It looks like Malta just drops down to "Port Supply" but never runs out. The unit will eventually be killed but mainly because it's Readiness level is below 20% so it takes a little damage each turn.
RE: Malta
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:46 pm
by Harrybanana
In one of my pbems I had a small corps in Malta. My opponent invaded with a 10 strength Italian Mountain corps. He placed a naval unit adjacent to Malta and bombed me for 2 or 3 turns with one or two bombers per turn. I used supply trucks each turn. He attacked me on the 3rd or 4th turn and my garrison surrendered. Didn't seem to me like he had too much trouble taking Malta.
RE: Malta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:41 am
by Flaviusx
Thanks for the tip, Harrybanana. That might just be the trick. Don't attack until the garrison has been thoroughly tenderized. And use the Italians, not the Germans, for the landing.
I did end up taking Malta, btw. The German corps that did it is trashed and will take months to recover but at least I did not lose it. Between that and the air losses a very expensive operation. MM got his AA and corps out of there before they died. He has to be pretty happy with how this worked out.
The oil ended up not mattering, though, because Germany is topped off anyways and Italy is nearly so now. I will indeed have more oil than I know what to do with here going into Barbarossa, which is nice. I may have to park some of it with the minors in order to avoid losing the excess.
RE: Malta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:50 am
by MagicMissile
I couldn“t let those guys die on Malta. But I did the one thing I dislike (basically the only thing I dislike with this game) I embarked them and sailed for the middle east even though sea and air is enemy controlled. I really wished there was a way for interception to take place at both embark and disembark point. Maybe in Warplan 2 [:)]. But yes happy with the outcome but it is a fairly small thing but every little bit counts.
/MM
RE: Malta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:51 am
by MorningDew
ORIGINAL: MagicMissile
I couldn“t let those guys die on Malta. But I did the one thing I dislike (basically the only thing I dislike with this game) I embarked them and sailed for the middle east even though sea and air is enemy controlled. I really wished there was a way for interception to take place at both embark and disembark point. Maybe in Warplan 2 [:)]. But yes happy with the outcome but it is a fairly small thing but every little bit counts.
/MM
Agree - I get the challenges of anywhere along the route, but adding point of embarkment would make a big difference.
RE: Malta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:31 pm
by kennonlightfoot
In one of my pbems I had a small corps in Malta. My opponent invaded with a 10 strength Italian Mountain corps. He placed a naval unit adjacent to Malta and bombed me for 2 or 3 turns with one or two bombers per turn. I used supply trucks each turn. He attacked me on the 3rd or 4th turn and my garrison surrendered. Didn't seem to me like he had too much trouble taking Malta.
I usually put max AA in Malta and a full strength Corps. This will make air attacks extremely expensive. If they land a unit I give it an Specialty bonus, either Elite or Tank Destroyer. Then supply trucks can be used to undo bad turns. Maybe in 42 or 43 the German armor will be powerful enough to crush it but I haven't had this happen yet.
I haven't verified it works for a while but if putting on a transport and sailing away if things get bad still works it is a very low risk use of a Corps.
RE: Malta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:02 pm
by Harrybanana
The Axis performed a Sealion and were pushing me out of Egypt; so I really didn't have the resources to spend on defending Malta properly.