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RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:55 pm
by Platoonist
Who ever knew Yugos would be so hard to flip? That dog of a car probably enjoyed having it's belly rubbed.
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:05 pm
by splashell
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DE 104 – UK: Support a Pro-Allied Coup in Yugoslavia?
 Event fires: There is a 50% chance per turn from the 24th February 1941 when London is in Allied hands, France has surrendered, both Germany and Italy are Axis and not surrendered,
and Yugoslavia is aligned with the Axis but not fully mobilized.
 Cost of accepting: 60 MPPs at 30 MPPs a turn for 2 turns.
 Yes: Yugoslavia joins the Allies and deploys a HQ unit at Belgrade. Greece has a 50% chance of
swinging 30-40% towards the Allies, while Germany loses 1,000 National Morale points, and will
only recoup them when Yugoslavia surrenders.
 No: Yugoslavia signs the Tripartite Pact and joins the Axis, while Germany gains 1,000 National
Morale points.
"
So if I understand this correctly, if axis wants to diploannex Yugoslavia (i.e. 100% mobilization), they had better get it done before Feb '41 or it's basically guaranteed that Yugoslavia will be couped, join the allies thus rendering all invested MPPs to waste? So if axis decides this strategy they must go ALL in from day 1.
On a side note quite historical thou since they joined the Tripartite pact for 2 days before the coup. The terms Germany offered were actually pretty good, basically Hitler said that we don't want you to do anything else than not interfere with our affairs. Learned from WW1 since Serbia developed into a major PITA for central powers.
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:15 pm
by ThunderLizard11
ORIGINAL: splashell
"
DE 104 – UK: Support a Pro-Allied Coup in Yugoslavia?
 Event fires: There is a 50% chance per turn from the 24th February 1941 when London is in Allied hands, France has surrendered, both Germany and Italy are Axis and not surrendered,
and Yugoslavia is aligned with the Axis but not fully mobilized.
 Cost of accepting: 60 MPPs at 30 MPPs a turn for 2 turns.
 Yes: Yugoslavia joins the Allies and deploys a HQ unit at Belgrade. Greece has a 50% chance of
swinging 30-40% towards the Allies, while Germany loses 1,000 National Morale points, and will
only recoup them when Yugoslavia surrenders.
 No: Yugoslavia signs the Tripartite Pact and joins the Axis, while Germany gains 1,000 National
Morale points.
"
So if I understand this correctly, if axis wants to diploannex Yugoslavia (i.e. 100% mobilization), they had better get it done before Feb '41 or it's basically guaranteed that Yugoslavia will be couped, join the allies thus rendering all invested MPPs to waste? So if axis decides this strategy they must go ALL in from day 1.
On a side note quite historical thou since they joined the Tripartite pact for 2 days before the coup. The terms Germany offered were actually pretty good, basically Hitler said that we don't want you to do anything else than not interfere with our affairs. Learned from WW1 since Serbia developed into a major PITA for central powers.
I had Yugo join Axis once without diplo. What are the odds of that happening
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:39 am
by BillRunacre
ORIGINAL: ThunderLizard2
I had Yugo join Axis once without diplo. What are the odds of that happening
Maybe the Allies said no to carrying out the coup?
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:26 am
by ThunderLizard11
ORIGINAL: BillRunacre
ORIGINAL: ThunderLizard2
I had Yugo join Axis once without diplo. What are the odds of that happening
Maybe the Allies said no to carrying out the coup?
Could be - but why would Allied player do that unless by mistake?
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:05 pm
by Erse
ORIGINAL: ThunderLizard2
Could be - but why would Allied player do that unless by mistake?
the Coup has a 50% chance of working, right? maybe the allied player carried it out and it just failed?
Erse
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:25 pm
by ThunderLizard11
ORIGINAL: Erse
ORIGINAL: ThunderLizard2
Could be - but why would Allied player do that unless by mistake?
the Coup has a 50% chance of working, right? maybe the allied player carried it out and it just failed?
Erse
Can someone check scripts?
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:27 pm
by HamburgerMeat
ORIGINAL: splashell
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DE 104 – UK: Support a Pro-Allied Coup in Yugoslavia?
 Event fires: There is a 50% chance per turn from the 24th February 1941 when London is in Allied hands, France has surrendered, both Germany and Italy are Axis and not surrendered,
and Yugoslavia is aligned with the Axis but not fully mobilized.
I think it's 50% per turn
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:08 pm
by splashell
Yup the description clearly states that after February 24th, if the prerequisites are met, there's a 50% chance every turn that the Coup event for Yugoslavia will trigger. After it triggers and if Allied player say's yes, Yugoslavia joins the allies immediately.
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:29 am
by BillRunacre
There is a 100% chance of it happening, but the timing can vary as Axis players got a bit too used to things happening on schedule.
This is fairly new though, and from memory it has always had a 100% chance of happening.
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:57 am
by Erse
ORIGINAL: BillRunacre
There is a 100% chance of it happening, but the timing can vary as Axis players got a bit too used to things happening on schedule.
This is fairly new though, and from memory it has always had a 100% chance of happening.
Ah, alright then. Mixed the words up in my head.
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:06 am
by Aussiematto
+1
funniest I've seen here in years
(reference up-thread the care on its back)
RE: What to do about Yugoslavia?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:07 am
by Aussiematto
All the more reason to get into Yugoslavia as soon as possible. Albania is a handy spot to make that happen from, avoiding the cursed weather in middle Europe!