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ORIGINAL: btd64

If you move air units and do the right things, you could possibly get some p-38 units to Rangoon by the end of January or beginning of February. P-38E if I remember right....GP

That may be so, but its not like you can get any plane earlier than normally available as the Allies.

I should have been more clear with what I meant in my last comment. I was salty over some exploits to get P-38Es in Rangoon in mid-January 42 (RIP Oscars and Zeros), and we don't have rules against skipping the R&D chain.
Soooo, I will be skipping the R&D chain.

What exploit ? If he got P-38’s there, it’s because he probably upgraded/downgraded the restricted units. There’s no exploit there, he lost other airframes to get those (maybe more than he got).

and we don't have rules against skipping the R&D chain.
Soooo, I will be skipping the R&D chain.

I opened a thread on this a while back, and some very experienced Allied players weren't even aware that it could be done.

Your opponent may be in this category. Be kind and mention it to him to see where he stands. If it were myself, I would.

I guess it's not really an exploit, but he did something with P-38 squadrons on US west coast and ended up giving the planes to the AVG groups in Burma.

My opponent's advisor goes by the name of Evoken. I think he's pretty active here. But at the start he was all about giving me advantages to prolong the war. Even gave me advice on a Mersing gambit.

One can get some P-38s out in the wild early but in generally costs a lot more airframes of older models to do so. And there are no replacements. As someone mentioned the Allies cannot adjust their production. And be happy your Nates could not catch the 17s. If they did you would have a lot fewer Nates and he would have some 17 aces.

ORIGINAL: fcooke

And be happy your Nates could not catch the 17s. If they did you would have a lot fewer Nates and he would have some 17 aces.

Miri is at half production now due to those bombers. I'd rather lose the Nates than expend the supply needed to fix all that damage. Won't be 100% again until mid/late 1943.[:-]

ORIGINAL: Fr33andcl34r

ORIGINAL: fcooke

And be happy your Nates could not catch the 17s. If they did you would have a lot fewer Nates and he would have some 17 aces.

Miri is at half production now due to those bombers. I'd rather lose the Nates than expend the supply needed to fix all that damage. Won't be 100% again until mid/late 1943.[:-]

Miri starts off at half production, nothing to do with bombing.

Give me a second to remove my foot from my mouth...
And if it isn't obvious this IS my first rodeo.

ORIGINAL: Fr33andcl34r

Give me a second to remove my foot from my mouth...
And if it isn't obvious this IS my first rodeo.

Toe jam, yummy!

Bring in AAA and maybe park a CVE with Zeros on CAP there.

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ORIGINAL: fcooke

And be happy your Nates could not catch the 17s. If they did you would have a lot fewer Nates and he would have some 17 aces.

Miri is at half production now due to those bombers. I'd rather lose the Nates than expend the supply needed to fix all that damage. Won't be 100% again until mid/late 1943.[:-]

Miri starts off at half production, nothing to do with bombing.

Same for Brunei, in case you are wondering. Oilfields were under development at the time.

And be happy your Nates could not catch the 17s. If they did you would have a lot fewer Nates and he would have some 17 aces.

I did actually have a Nate shoot down a B-17D, once.[:D]

That's the model sans tail gun. I had about 16 Nates to about 2 17's, and there were lots of reports of damage on the 17's.

Oh, the Miri issue was a month and a half ago. I've since moved farther out into DEI and now have Zeros and Oscars flying around my new oil fields. My opponent's only B-17 capable bases are much farther out now.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Fr33andcl34r





Miri is at half production now due to those bombers. I'd rather lose the Nates than expend the supply needed to fix all that damage. Won't be 100% again until mid/late 1943.[:-]

Miri starts off at half production, nothing to do with bombing.

Same for Brunei, in case you are wondering. Oilfields were under development at the time.

I believe it's to represent the British August 1941 sabotage and possibly even the demolitions on December 8th itself.

ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Ambassador



Miri starts off at half production, nothing to do with bombing.

Same for Brunei, in case you are wondering. Oilfields were under development at the time.

I believe it's to represent the British August 1941 sabotage and possibly even the demolitions on December 8th itself.

Alfred confirmed it was to allow expansion. The game models the potential for additional damage when the base changes hands - that would correspond to demolition attempts.

Interest reading here:

http://www.combinedfleet.com/BorneoOil.htm

Tarakan's oil production may need to be revised.