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RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:15 pm
by bradfordkay
Sydney is the one port in Australia with a reasonable supply of fuel - large enough that a convoy of fifteen or more xAK cargo ships won't nearly drain it (not to mention well over a million tons of supply). I suppose that if I had a huge number of ships disbanded in Normanton then fuel and supply would be transported there via RR/road (with a bit of loss due to the long trip from Brisbane/Sydney) but my needs for shipping elsewhere preclude the static use of shipping to make that happen.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:17 pm
by RangerJoe
You don't need to have static ships there. The port will demand 1k of fuel per level plus what is needed to refuel ships that are operating from there. Alfred posted on this recently.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:28 pm
by bradfordkay
I prefer keeping my larger cargo ships at major supply hubs so I can run fewer (large) convoys to the ports large enough to handle them. Perhaps I should rebase the Gove resupply TF to Normanton rather than run it from Townsville. Right now in that area I only have Gove, Merauke and Horn Island that require the xAKLs and smaller xAKs. Broome, Derby and Port Hedland are resupplied from Perth, of course.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:39 pm
by RangerJoe
You can run CS convoys from Normanton to Darwin hauling supplies and fuel in, then resources on the return leg. That is within range of those xAKLs and AMs.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:59 pm
by bradfordkay
I could, but I am not a big fan of CS convoys. I don't mind the extra work of handling all resupply efforts manually. This allows me to keep a closer eye on ship damage as well as possible upgrades. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:12 pm
by Randy Stead
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I could, but I am not a big fan of CS convoys. I don't mind the extra work of handling all resupply efforts manually. This allows me to keep a closer eye on ship damage as well as possible upgrades. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

That is something I should perhaps consider in my current Guadalcanal scenario. I've not yet used a CS convoy in any of my operations. The last supply convoy I sent to Port Milne had two ships which were too big to unload simultaneously. I had to do the Dock Dance to unload. The Dock Dance is like the Safety Dance, but more likely to have someone shoot their eye out, kid.

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:35 pm
by Sardaukar
When playing Grand Campaign, CS convoys are useful.

Like running fuel from Abadan to Karachi constantly to keep Indian economy up.

Otherwise, it is often better to "take the big dump once than many small dumps", as in toilet.

I like to run my supplies manually except above.


RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:16 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

When playing Grand Campaign, CS convoys are useful.

Like running fuel from Abadan to Karachi constantly to keep Indian economy up.

Otherwise, it is often better to "take the big dump once than many small dumps", as in toilet.

I like to run my supplies manually except above.


Actually, I do believe that it is better to take many smaller dumps than one big one as that can cause problems. Maybe Cap Mandrake can enlighten us on that.[;)]

But one large CS Convoy that is well protected is better than many small convoys without enough protection. A belt and braces (suspenders to the Americans) is better than just one or none - unless she is pretty and they fall off . . . [:'(]

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:37 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Randy Stead

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I could, but I am not a big fan of CS convoys. I don't mind the extra work of handling all resupply efforts manually. This allows me to keep a closer eye on ship damage as well as possible upgrades. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

That is something I should perhaps consider in my current Guadalcanal scenario. I've not yet used a CS convoy in any of my operations. The last supply convoy I sent to Port Milne had two ships which were too big to unload simultaneously. I had to do the Dock Dance to unload. The Dock Dance is like the Safety Dance, but more likely to have someone shoot their eye out, kid.
So is Port Milne halfway between Port Moresby and Milne Bay? No wonder you had trouble unloading! [:D]

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:42 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

When playing Grand Campaign, CS convoys are useful.

Like running fuel from Abadan to Karachi constantly to keep Indian economy up.

Otherwise, it is often better to "take the big dump once than many small dumps", as in toilet.

I like to run my supplies manually except above.


Actually, I do believe that it is better to take many smaller dumps than one big one as that can cause problems. Maybe Cap Mandrake can enlighten us on that.[;)]

But one large CS Convoy that is well protected is better than many small convoys without enough protection. A belt and braces (suspenders to the Americans) is better than just one or none - unless she is pretty and they fall off . . . [:'(]

Depends if cargo is liquid or solid...

RE: Basic question on TF Refueling

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:08 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

When playing Grand Campaign, CS convoys are useful.

Like running fuel from Abadan to Karachi constantly to keep Indian economy up.

Otherwise, it is often better to "take the big dump once than many small dumps", as in toilet.

I like to run my supplies manually except above.


Actually, I do believe that it is better to take many smaller dumps than one big one as that can cause problems. Maybe Cap Mandrake can enlighten us on that.[;)]

But one large CS Convoy that is well protected is better than many small convoys without enough protection. A belt and braces (suspenders to the Americans) is better than just one or none - unless she is pretty and they fall off . . . [:'(]

Depends if cargo is liquid or solid...

Tycho Brahe found out the hard way that smaller dumps of liquid waste is very important.