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My first shot (Pfizer) is scheduled for Wednesday 3/24. They finally got around to us 60 somethings without underlying conditions.

They called me yesterday. Second shot on next thursday (25 march). If I well understood, 7 days after or 1 april I will be finally safe. Good luck to everyone (those who are waiting and those who don't want it).

Dont want it and will never have it. It isnt a vaccine and the risk is worse than the virus.

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RR

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Dont want it and will never have it. It isnt a vaccine and the risk is worse than the virus.

Uh yeah, it's a vaccine. [:D]

It is a personal choice. [;)]

Wife and I went yesterday. Huge line. Got there 45 minutes early and stood in line for an hour. Arm is a little sore this a.m. but that's it.

Didn't die. Didn't turn into a zombie. No one of the thousands there did either. [:D]

Uh yeah, it's a vaccine.

Since Im a virologist, I beg to differ. Theres no need for it anyway since Ivermectin & Hydroxchloroquine with zinc can treat it successfully without risking gene therapy consequences.

A mRNA (messenger-RNA) vaccine can't possibly alter your DNA genes. Please, refrain from baseless conspiracy theories (or trolling, if this is what you are doing).

Trolling? No, thats what it seems that youre up to. I merely stated a fact.

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Trolling? No, thats what it seems that youre up to. I merely stated a fact.

Proof?

Edit: unless you are talking about Johnson & Johnson or AstraZeneca - that still aren't approved in the US anyway and only recently in EU. The vaccines currently used (like Pfizer or Moderna) are based on mRNA - and that's not gene-therapy. A virologist should know the difference.

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Uh yeah, it's a vaccine.

Since Im a virologist, I beg to differ. Theres no need for it anyway since Ivermectin & Hydroxchloroquine with zinc can treat it successfully without risking gene therapy consequences.

Sorry, don't believe you. This is getting to be like Farcebook. [8|]
I think he wants to get the thread locked. So best to just ignore him.

Dont really want to do this here. You can meet me at the UCLA Biomed library if you wish to discuss it further. I was merely floating out of bed this morning when I noticed this anyway.

My mother in law had felt sick after her second Pfizer shot.

My wife and I had Covid in October, pretty sick, still not clear why I should need a shot AFTER having been infected.
So what will the shot contribute to my body’s natural response?
Shouldn’t my natural immunity not be enough?

Ergo if my natural immunity is not enough, neither will the vaccine be enough.

That’s the logic that keeps escaping me with most official info.

Both can’t be right.
So either the extra vaccination after infection is nonsense, or the vaccination will only protect for a relatively short period.
Not a skeptic, but I am critical.

...and it has nothing to do with fear.

If it is the latter, well...

[8|]

nvm

ORIGINAL: Simulacra53
My wife and I had Covid in October, pretty sick, still not clear why I should need a shot AFTER having been infected.

Remember that some people have been infected twice. It has happened. What do health authorities recommend in *your country*? Some countries have said one shot might be needed.

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Uh yeah, it's a vaccine.

Since Im a virologist, I beg to differ. Theres no need for it anyway since Ivermectin & Hydroxchloroquine with zinc can treat it successfully without risking gene therapy consequences.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-a ... setting-or

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... g-75517793

no it can't

In before the lock.

My wife and I received the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. I had a mild reaction, wife of course, did not.

We take care of my 84 year old mother with dementia so the entire household is now vaccinated.

Just be careful, vaccinated or not.

Two Danish patients have brain hemorrhages following AstraZeneca shot

Two people in Denmark suffered brain hemorrhages after receiving AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine, according to multiple reports.

Two hospital staff members received the vaccine less than 14 days before experiencing brain bleeds, Reuters reported. The Danish Medicines Agency confirmed it received two “serious reports,” but didn’t give further details on the matter.

The New York Times reported that one of the patients died, and the other, a woman in her 30s, is critically ill. . . .

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... strazeneca

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

ORIGINAL: Simulacra53
My wife and I had Covid in October, pretty sick, still not clear why I should need a shot AFTER having been infected.

Remember that some people have been infected twice. It has happened. What do health authorities recommend in *your country*? Some countries have said one shot might be needed.

I do know that people have been reported as being infected twice, but what does that tell you about immunity?
That natural immunity is weaker than a vaccine?

In my country as so many they recommend taking a shot anyway, to ensure proper immune response.
Personally I don’t think that’s a strong nor scientific argument.

Just like using two face masks AFTER your vaccination or infection.
But I’ll bow out now.

Let’s talk again in a couple of years.

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Just be careful, vaccinated or not.

Two Danish patients have brain hemorrhages following AstraZeneca shot

Two people in Denmark suffered brain hemorrhages after receiving AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine, according to multiple reports.

Two hospital staff members received the vaccine less than 14 days before experiencing brain bleeds, Reuters reported. The Danish Medicines Agency confirmed it received two “serious reports,” but didn’t give further details on the matter.

The New York Times reported that one of the patients died, and the other, a woman in her 30s, is critically ill. . . .

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... strazeneca

This is a follow up to a scare that Europe had with AstraZeneca's vaccine a week ago. Its use was suspended while the European Medicines Agency investigated the matter. At the end they concluded that not only they were able to confirm only 25 cases of blood-clotting episodes in 20+ million people vaccinated, but also that it isn't even really possible to tie these problems to the vaccine. COVID-19 itself often causes blood clotting disorders in patients, so, while the average numbers are up since the pandemic began, no further increase was registered since the vaccinations began.

EMA slapped a new warning on the "product informations" sheet (where, to be clear, you already find "death" as a possible side effect) and asked the European countries to move on. Most of them already did.

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