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RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:33 pm
by Blackhorse

"Hit me with your best shot - Fire Away!"
... perfect for a game with no HRs [8D]

You come on with it, come on
You don't fight fair
But that's okay, see if I care
Knock me down, it's all in vain
I get right back on my feet again
Hit me with your best shot
Why don't you hit me with your best shot
Hit me with your best shot
Fire away
- Pat Benatar

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:46 pm
by RevRick
If any one on here starts trying to sing like Richard Harris.......................

"I don't think that I can take it, cause it took so long to make it..." will receive no sympathy those of us playing this game for the last three decades or so.

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:49 pm
by eskuche
As a confused newbie coming in from the Ostfront...
"Where are all the tanks?"

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:33 pm
by PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: eskuche

As a confused newbie coming in from the Ostfront...
"Where are all the tanks?"
Where is the flat land? [:D]

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:46 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: eskuche

As a confused newbie coming in from the Ostfront...
"Where are all the tanks?"
Where is the flat land? [:D]

Actually on the hills holding the oil/fuel to take advantage of the gravity to help move the liquids.

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:23 pm
by eskuche
AAR #2: "Turns out the fighters were dropping tanks from their wings," with a rare example from the Ostfront...of perhaps a parachuted StuG from the Fallschirm-Panzer-Division 1. Hermann Goering?
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RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:46 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: eskuche

AAR #2: "Turns out the fighters were dropping tanks from their wings," with a rare example from the Ostfront...of perhaps a parachuted StuG from the Fallschirm-Panzer-Division 1. Hermann Goering?
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A StuG was not a tank. It as manned not by tankers but by cannon cockers as a mobile artillery piece. Sometimes also known as an assault gun.

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:53 pm
by eskuche
You try finding a real picture of an actual tank with a parachute! [:-]

AAR#3: "Can't believe we're StuG in this theatre without Panthers..."

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:57 pm
by BBfanboy
That vehicle is camouflaged - it was either already there when the parachute came down or came afterward - like at Arnhem. I did air drops of graders and bulldozers and I can tell you that parachute is wayyyyy too small for the job.

Also, weren't the air transportable vehicles mostly carried on gliders, rather than air dropped? We had to put about three feet of honeycomb cardboard under the vehicles we dropped to keep the engine from tearing loose and the tires from collapsing.

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:04 pm
by eskuche
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
That vehicle is camouflaged - it was either already there when the parachute came down or came afterward - like at Arnhem. I did air drops of graders and bulldozers and I can tell you that parachute is wayyyyy too small for the job.

Also, weren't the air transportable vehicles mostly carried on gliders, rather than air dropped? We had to put about three feet of honeycomb cardboard under the vehicles we dropped to keep the engine from tearing loose and the tires from collapsing.

You're correct, of course! The picture caption mentions a British parachute in front of a StuG, but it was the only way I could fuel my dumb drop tank pun. Phew, tough crowd here...
AAR #4: "On the history of grammar Nazis in the Pacific theatre"

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:45 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: eskuche
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
That vehicle is camouflaged - it was either already there when the parachute came down or came afterward - like at Arnhem. I did air drops of graders and bulldozers and I can tell you that parachute is wayyyyy too small for the job.

Also, weren't the air transportable vehicles mostly carried on gliders, rather than air dropped? We had to put about three feet of honeycomb cardboard under the vehicles we dropped to keep the engine from tearing loose and the tires from collapsing.

You're correct, of course! The picture caption mentions a British parachute in front of a StuG, but it was the only way I could fuel my dumb drop tank pun. Phew, tough crowd here...
AAR #4: "On the history of grammar Nazis in the Pacific theatre"

I completely missed the drop tank reference!


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RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:54 pm
by RangerJoe
New Russian tank can PARACHUTE onto the battlefield: Footage shows armoured vehicle deploying from aircraft and also operating in water

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -tank.html

This is how the USAF drop TANKS from the sky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgcCCOcaiig

Airborne Drop a Tank from a Plane: M551 Sheridan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNRfCTSov5g

This video shows how the US military delivers tanks at 150 mph

https://www.wearethemighty.com/watch/vi ... ers-tanks/

RE: Someone left the cake out in the rain

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:57 pm
by Gridley380
I considered doing several AARs:

A. "Let them eat Wake"; do some tweaks to get a historical first battle of Wake, and focus on doing an all-out attempt to hold it. On the assumption that it would eventually fall, keep following the units that participated in the effort.

B. Flush Deckers at War (working title): "This AAR will focus on a family of elderly, often scorned, sometimes forgotten ships: the USN’s “Flush Decker” Destroyers - and transports, minelayers, tenders... At the start of the game there are 63 flush-deckers on the game map..." in between AAR posts I had lined up some ideas for related posts:
1. Eldest Sister: USS Manley
2. First Shot: USS Ward
3. Day of Infamy: USS Walker (IX-44)
4. (A) First Loss: USS Reuben James
5. First Pacific Loss: USS Peary
6. POW: USS Stewart (IJN PB #102)
7. Bullied: USS Pillsbury
8. Youngest Sister: USS Decatur
9. Tragic Twins: USS Colhoun and Little
10. Fighting Retreat: DesRon 29
11. Long Way Home: USS Childs (AVD1) & USS W.B. Preston (AVD7)
12. Frontline REMFs: DesDiv 80 – include USS Allen (DD66)
13. To the Bitter End: USS Dorsey, Barrey, and Greene
14. (A) Canal Guards: DesRon 33
15. Famous Flag: USS Paul Jones
16. Orphans: USS Litchfield and Noa
17. Banana Boats: USS Putnam, Dale, & Osborne
18. Green Dragons: APD
19. Of Mines and Minesweepers: DM & DMS
20. Tender Loving Care: AVD
21. (A) Officially Miscellaneous: USS Semmes (AG24)
22. Born in War, Died in War: USS Little, Gregory, Colhoun, and Dorsey
23. (A) Suicide: USS Buchanan
24. (A) Canadian, eh?: Canadian DD for Bases
25. (A) Three Navies: USS Herndon (aka HMS Churchill aka Dyatelnyi)
26. (A) Back from the Grave: USS Turner (IX98)
27. (O) Cursed: USS Meredith
28. (O) Honda Point
29. (O) A Death in Peacetime: USS Woolsey
30. (A) Take One With You: USS Borie
31. (A) Friendly Fire: USS Sturtevant
32. (O) Three Digits: USS Maury (DD100)
33. (O) Small Families: USS Tillman (Charleston NSY) & Gwin (Todd Dry Dock)
34. (O) Haven’t We Met Before?: USS Gridley, Mahan, Edsall, Farragut, Somers, Sumner [yes, named for Allen M. Sumner]
35. (O) Rumrunners: USCG service
36. (O) Boiling Over: Yarrow boilers

C. "Politics in the Pacific"; "In many AARs the player asks for advice.
I’m going to ask for orders.
You – anyone reading this thread – are going to play the part of various politicians, commanders of other theaters, even journalists manipulating public opinion. Anyone who would be in a position to influence strategic decisions.
I’m going to periodically ask a question that would have been of political significance. I’ll give a day for voting and then I’ll do what the majority voted for, whether it’s a good idea or not.
You are, by the way, under no obligation to vote historically, or for what you think the best in-game answer would be. You can vote however you like..."

All three were intended to be played with a variant of Babes where I'd made some corrections to the OrBat, but I wound up more or less re-writing the US Army and USMC game OrBat in the process (based primarily on Rottman and Stanton's USMC and US Army Ground Forces OrBat books), and it became more frustration than fun.