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Thanks for your quick response.

I think the author should at least learn some up to date information about PLAN before he made the scenario. If so，he should have known that the “Low” in the mix of high/low capability will be 054As which already have 30 in service，not the 053H3s which are much fewer in quantity and will probably all get retired in the middle of 2020s.

I suggest he check the newest PLAN CSG spy images from the JSDF Joint Staff website.

I think the author should at least learn some up to date information about PLAN before he made the scenario. If so，he should have known that the “Low” in the mix of high/low capability will be 054As which already have 30 in service，not the 053H3s which are much fewer in quantity and will probably all get retired in the middle of 2020s.

I suggest he check the newest PLAN CSG spy images from the JSDF Joint Staff website.

Luigi,

That is not really a fair point. Depending on the time period, nations/units involved and availability of unclassified information a campaign’s (or scenario’s) author will have a less than perfect knowledge of real world military assets.

I believe that in every campaign produced to date the authors have had to make judgement calls and estimates of the unit types and numbers to be included. One forum member attempted to make a scenario (not the DLC campaign) of the Desert Storm conflict and wanted to include every unit involved. Under CMANO the scenario was 7-8Mb in size. In CMO it would easily be 3-4 times larger and while close (perhaps) to being technically accurate it was pretty much unplayable. Still, it was a remarkably detailed effort.

Specifically, in the Desert Storm DLC tradeoffs were made by having a representational number of appropriate units assigned.

So, no campaign or scenario is going to be perfect but for the CMO simulation I think this one has done an excellent job.

-Wayne Stiles

Updated scenarios #1, #3 and #11 by the campaign author: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v1XkW ... eBe-BaLcFX

These will also be included in the next update.

ORIGINAL: Dimitris

Updated scenarios #1, #3 and #11 by the campaign author: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v1XkW ... eBe-BaLcFX

These will also be included in the next update.

Thanks! It would be great to include a short line, just to know what to expect [;)]

Thanks for your fast update of the scenarios. Excellent work. They look great.
By the way, who is the scenarios author?

Thanks
Francesco

If we download the updated scenarios, will the updates apply to campaign play or them as standalone scenarios only?

ORIGINAL: FMBluecher

If we download the updated scenarios, will the updates apply to campaign play or them as standalone scenarios only?

If you already started a particular scenario (whether in campaign mode or standalone mode) and load that save/checkpoint, you'll still be playing the original scenario as the save file is not changed. If you continue to an updated campaign scenario from the previous scenario or load it as a fresh-start standalone scenario, you'll be playing the updated scenario.

That's why I recommend saving campaign scenarios once you reach the pass-score and before you hit "Continue Campaign". That way, if the following scenario is updated, you can load the "end" save of the previous scenario (which should appear just before the "checkpoint" save of the updated scenario), hit "Continue Campaign" off the Scoring window once loaded, and start with the updated campaign.

Specifically with this update, you'll need to start a new campaign to play the updated first scenario in campaign mode, or load and continue from scenarios 2/10 (and hopefully not have to fully play through if you already played them) in campaign mode to play the updated versions of scenarios 3/11 (respectively) in campaign mode.

ORIGINAL: Eggstor
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Perfect, thank you very much!

much appreciated but there are few changes I wanted to point out

ORIGINAL: ai_beyondcontrol

Y E T A G A I N?
With all respect, the scenarios reads and feels just like replaying Chain of War scenarios on a different place on earth:a series of single-sided scenarios portraying the same story where a US-philic country was invaded by China or a China-philic country and caught by surprise, after that US and a bunch of US-philic countries would came to save the day, and together they defeat the great Red Dragon and its evil fellows, restoring peace and order. I think as leading wargame CMO shall be more imaginative than simply fulfilling the apetite of some sinophobians in a repetitive manner.

Honestly I agree with you sir. And considering the balance of forces and of the status of the countries involved as well as history. Even I as an American agree with you.