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RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:33 pm
by Rosseau
I would first download the manual (it's free), as that will probably sell you or not.

https://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/WarInTh ... 0EBOOK.pdf

I admit I hesitated at first, but there were a number of personal reasons I decided to get the game, which the OP doesn't care about.

Crazy, but I purchased WitE and WitW on release and am just getting started with the latter one. The editor is currently missing some options that are important to me, but will be included in a patch.

WitE2 is the definitive Eastern Front game that will be patched and modded until I meet my Maker. And if the OP can handle WitP:AE, this game should be a "breeze" in terms of UI. Not that it is simpler - there is much more depth and richness, imo, than WitP:AE - but you can start pushing around counters and playing the game immediately.

Going to purchase WarPlan Pacific now. With Matrix, I just can't help myself!

Best wishes to all.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:37 pm
by LarryP
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Leaning back in a recliner. Keeping my right foot up. Do you need a picture? [;)]

Now this is how to game. [:)]

If you are going to do something, do it right! [8D]

But I could still post a picture with some right feet.

Okay. Go for it...

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:20 pm
by chris_merchant
The game looks amazing but the days of me absorbing ASL-like rulebooks (and all that in-game spreadsheet detail!) are over. Currently enjoying Barbarossa in the Unity of Command II engine - just enough detail/complexity/decision making and a wicked AI.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: LarryP

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Lobster




Now this is how to game. [:)]

If you are going to do something, do it right! [8D]

But I could still post a picture with some right feet.

Okay. Go for it...

Okay, you asked for a picture with some right feet. My new kitten, Danny Boy . . . [;)]

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RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:34 pm
by Lobster
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: LarryP

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe




If you are going to do something, do it right! [8D]

But I could still post a picture with some right feet.

Okay. Go for it...

Okay, you asked for a picture with some right feet. My new kitten, Danny Boy . . . [;)]

Image

He's saying, "Get me outta here". [;)]

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:39 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lobster

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: LarryP




Okay. Go for it...

Okay, you asked for a picture with some right feet. My new kitten, Danny Boy . . . [;)]

Image

He's saying, "Get me outta here". [;)]

Nope. There are these UFOs outside and he wants either a better look or to try and get them.

That is why my grandfather told me you want a fall kitten instead of a spring kitten - at least on a farm. Although the vet that I take them to did not know that.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:57 pm
by LarryP
ORIGINAL: Zovs

Here

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4988051

Posts 3, 6, 10 and 12 have useful info, my second or third attachment there.

I'm working away at customizing this to my system, but already it's a world of difference. Thanks very very much! [:)]

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:59 pm
by LarryP
RangerJoe: Your new cat has the same markings as my cat. I bet he has a raccoon ringed tail?

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:33 pm
by Zovs
Your welcome

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:06 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: LarryP

RangerJoe: Your new cat has the same markings as my cat. I bet he has a raccoon ringed tail?

Yes, he does!

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:56 am
by Orm
The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support. Because you want more games you will never play. Because you want more Eastern Front games. Because you want more games with all the details included. Because you want more games with limited naval warfare.

[;)]

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:07 am
by gamer78
Very true about Eastern Front games. And I think either WW'2 or space games now. Before WW'2 there weren't any conflicts for this community. Ex: I've enjoyed beta testing SWE&RUS War in Great Northern War (1700-1721) But since Ageod left wargaming community it is a bit desert.

I still don't belive about theory about 'young' doesn't know history or interested in history. They are interested but not as Warhammer games of cource. But as long as someone teaches them they are very concentrated just like us. Cheers.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:20 am
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: Orm

The only reasons that I can think of is that you want to give your support (have done that for some smaller titles but not necessary here). Because you want more games you will never play (at £60 - no I definitely don't want that!). Because you want more Eastern Front games (nope). Because you want more games with all the details included (yes - so long as it has the right mix of fun and playable). Because you want more games with limited naval warfare (not really too much of an issue with the Eastern Front).

[;)]
warspite1

Thanks for the replies. I never could get into WITP-AE. Clearly a great game (given its dedicated following). It should have been perfect due to its naval theme. But I just could not get past the number of things I had to do, buttons I had to press and clicks I needed to make, just to put some aircraft on a carrier.

So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:49 am
by loki100
ORIGINAL: warspite1

...
So next question.

Does this game require the player (or recommend a player) to use a spreadsheet?

No - I've been testing, playing and documenting it for 5 years and have never felt such an urge.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:56 am
by Ridcully70
Buy it for Gary, he needs a self confidence boost

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:42 am
by Zap
ORIGINAL: Ridcully70

Buy it for Gary, he needs a self confidence boost
[:D]

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:14 am
by gamer78
I see no Gary, only third party dev team answers to his citizens....[:-] Loki100 did you write manual?

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 am
by loki100
yes, to the manual.

I don't think Gary ever logs onto the forum, Joel keeps a close eye on the bugs and suggestions and then picks it up. Pavel is often active with the bug reporting (when he has the time)

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:37 am
by gamer78
Thank you for your previous work of Pride of Nations and this manual. Regards.

RE: Why should I buy WITE2?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:45 am
by loki100
I still so hope one day that Philippe gets to redo PoN with the new game engine. I think I'd just disappear into a 19C steam punk universe and never emerge [;)]