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RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:48 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Grognerd_INC

I'm not sure if you know but Win 11 will be distributed later this year as a free upgrade.

Like I said, a great price point [:D]

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:27 pm
by Anonymous
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RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:29 pm
by MrsWargamer
ORIGINAL: Grognerd_INC

I'm not sure if you know but Win 11 will be distributed later this year as a free upgrade.

Well, free is a hard sell :)

If they plan to 'give' it to me, I'll at least try it. If my machine even cares.

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:24 pm
by Anonymous
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RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:11 pm
by wodin
you need a TPM card..cheap to buy

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:29 pm
by Anonymous
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RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:26 pm
by wodin
Will see what the reaction is like, if good will by a TPM and get 11 free.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:43 am
by Lobster
Most people don't have any need for it. Seems to me it's mainly for businesses and companies who distribute digital products to ensure their material isn't pirated. In other words it seems like something big business asked for.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:16 am
by goodwoodrw
I'm a dinosaur still running Win 7

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:59 am
by ncc1701e
ORIGINAL: Ginetto

This is serious stuff, especially for the older but very popular games such as Gary Grisby's BTR, WITP-AE and TOAW IV.
Is Matrix Games doing anything pro-active to head off the inevitable anguish of blameless gamers? Such as talking to Microsoft to make sure the new Windows's software is harmless?

You are right. Compatibility of old engines with Windows 11 will be to monitor closely.
I think there is a beta already available to start testing.

But, what if TOAW IV or WITP-AE don't work anymore? [X(]

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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:54 am
by Anonymous
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RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:29 am
by Aurelian
nvm

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:06 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

ORIGINAL: Ginetto

This is serious stuff, especially for the older but very popular games such as Gary Grisby's BTR, WITP-AE and TOAW IV.
Is Matrix Games doing anything pro-active to head off the inevitable anguish of blameless gamers? Such as talking to Microsoft to make sure the new Windows's software is harmless?

You are right. Compatibility of old engines with Windows 11 will be to monitor closely.
I think there is a beta already available to start testing.

But, what if WITP-AE doen't work anymore? [X(]

I fixed that for you.[;)]

But just use a virtual box with a previous OS.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:10 pm
by Lobster
ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

ORIGINAL: Ginetto

This is serious stuff, especially for the older but very popular games such as Gary Grisby's BTR, WITP-AE and TOAW IV.
Is Matrix Games doing anything pro-active to head off the inevitable anguish of blameless gamers? Such as talking to Microsoft to make sure the new Windows's software is harmless?

You are right. Compatibility of old engines with Windows 11 will be to monitor closely.
I think there is a beta already available to start testing.

But, what if TOAW IV or WITP-AE don't work anymore? [X(]

You can also have different systems on the same computer and can boot any of them on start up.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:34 pm
by zakblood
what ever worked on windows 10 will or should work with 11, so far with my testing with the beta version of 11, not had a single issue, then again my hardware isn't anything special and i don't load junk at start up that i don't need,

had a support question and issue fixed the other day that no one seemed to be able to solve, was a old version of office front end pre installed at start that caused a conflict with a game, unload the overlay and the game worked fine,

so question was asked and replied to,

why use the overlay in the first place?

simple, with it auto loaded at startup, the program loads somewhat quicker, by how much is debatable so to not have it loaded each and every boot, made no difference in load time, but compatibility time it may have fixed more than a few issues.

so as always,

a clean install of windows fixes almost everything as long as you also let windows sort out your drivers, unless you have hardware and your own up to date drivers that are later versions.

and unless you need your 3d glasses, office and motherboard overlays type junk loaded every boot, disable it and have windows load barebones, with next to nothing pre loaded.

sound, AV and steam is about most anyone needs, with 90%+ not even needing the sound program pre loaded as it works find without for most hardware i'm told and have found over he many years of support tbh

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:15 pm
by rico21
Thanks to share Zak.[&o]
Euh, Windows 11 is the new variant of Microsoft?[:(][:D]

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:24 pm
by zakblood
Ian and Erik opened up a compatibility list for windows 10, don't even think one will be needed for 11 tbh with my tests on the beta version, but who knows with the retail one as still items may change, but the overall code hasn't that much and more of a UI change and the way it updates and doesn't need a restart or reboot so often, but if it does end up being the case one will be done and posted in the same format as before or better,...

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3924215

i don't mind doing a whole catalogue listing for them all again on how to install or get around any issues that may come out with them same format as before in the list shown above.

but nothing so far that worked with windows 10 for me hasn't loaded and worked in 11.


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and for those who think something maybe or maybe not needed to run, my pc is like the picture shows, is plus 8 years old test one and it worked fine on the games part.

the only problem people will have with windows 11, is if there pc / bios or CPU isn't supported, then not a problem either tbh, as it won't install or work so you can stay with windows 10.

as windows 11 really is only for pc's of about 2 years old, maybe a bit more, but for now that's unsure until it's fully released, the preview beta version doesn't even install, just run's in VM atm.

so while i have the chance to test older games, i won't be able to fully install on this test pc either, so no direct comparison with windows 10 on the same hardware.

but as my newest gaming rig is only from last year, i'll have at least 2 pc's in date which windows 11 will work on for the tests to start, as soon as it's gold and a RC candidate is out.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:06 pm
by gamer78
I don't know what Windows 11 will do about directx 11 or 12? Or GG War in West, War in the East 2?

I previously (in february after I've purched a new pc) have sent dxdiag logs .

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4954339 and no reply.

So I didn't buy War in The East 2 at all.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:08 pm
by Greybriar
As far as I am concerned, Windows 11 is nothing more than a cash grab by Microsoft.

I have no need for Windows 11 and will stick with Windows 10.

RE: Windows 11 is Coming

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:48 pm
by RangerJoe
Words of warning:

"We are from Microsoft, we have something new for you, and we are here to help you!"