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RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:22 pm
by RangerJoe
Instead of minimal fuel, give them tactical fuel so they get 10% more so they can take evasive actions and such things. You can set waypoints with your TFs and have a refuel setting for those so your TFs can go from the West Coast of the USA to Australia and refuel three different times on the way there. They can refuel from the port, tankers disbanded in the port, and/or AOs. The AOs can and will take oil from a tankers to give to a ship. Then a player can also state "return by the same route" or something like that and they will reuse the same stops and refueling instructions.

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:47 pm
by BananaConvention
I haven’t played with the waypoint settings yet. You’re saying there is an option to dictate a refuel at one of these?

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:22 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: BananaConvention

I haven’t played with the waypoint settings yet. You’re saying there is an option to dictate a refuel at one of these?

Yes, when you put in the waypoint you can select the refueling settings. Refueling will also resupply with ammo if I remember correctly so having an appropriate tender at a base where the port facilities with Naval support is not high enough to resupply the ship. That is where even those small AGs help and even ADs would be useful there as well. If you end up with spare escorts, you can also swap them out (manually) and those tenders can also help to repair damage.

Ship Repair 101 Guide

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... 45&mpage=1

Tender and Support/Auxillary Ship Guide

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2920431

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:19 pm
by Kull
Speaking of "refueling stations", look waaayyyyy down in the Society Islands and you'll find the small atoll of Bora Bora. Troops will appear there and others will show up with that as their "Target". Glenn Williford's awesome book, "Racing the Sunrise" tells us why:

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RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:00 pm
by jdsrae
BOBCAT: https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/Ad ... ses-4.html

We are lucky that we can just click “load supplies” and don’t have to worry about what order they are loaded in!
It sounds like the real life operation loaded in transport mode and should have loaded in amphib mode.

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:48 pm
by BananaConvention
Yes, when you put in the waypoint you can select the refueling settings. Refueling will also resupply with ammo if I remember correctly so having an appropriate tender at a base where the port facilities with Naval support is not high enough to resupply the ship. That is where even those small AGs help and even ADs would be useful there as well. If you end up with spare escorts, you can also swap them out (manually) and those tenders can also help to repair damage.

FYI I read the repair ship guide 101 and it was helpful. This post was great as well! How long does the TF stay at the waypoint to refuel? Is it dictated by ops points? IE, if they have enough ops points to do the desired refuel and it doesn't max them out could they theorhetically be underway the same turn?

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:27 pm
by Kull
ORIGINAL: jdsrae

BOBCAT: https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/Ad ... ses-4.html

We are lucky that we can just click “load supplies” and don’t have to worry about what order they are loaded in!
It sounds like the real life operation loaded in transport mode and should have loaded in amphib mode.

Especially in the early war, the speed and ease with which one can load entire convoys of ten or more vessels in one or two days is, well, optimistic. Another "game play vs. reality" conundrum.

Great link by the way!

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:34 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: BananaConvention
Yes, when you put in the waypoint you can select the refueling settings. Refueling will also resupply with ammo if I remember correctly so having an appropriate tender at a base where the port facilities with Naval support is not high enough to resupply the ship. That is where even those small AGs help and even ADs would be useful there as well. If you end up with spare escorts, you can also swap them out (manually) and those tenders can also help to repair damage.

FYI I read the repair ship guide 101 and it was helpful. This post was great as well! How long does the TF stay at the waypoint to refuel? Is it dictated by ops points? IE, if they have enough ops points to do the desired refuel and it doesn't max them out could they theorhetically be underway the same turn?

It does depend upon the OPs points as well as the refueling capacity of the port if you are getting fuel from there. Usually it is the AOs and/or tankers which will use up their OPs points first, especially for a large TF.

RE: Refuel Just Escorts?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:54 am
by RevRick
ORIGINAL: jdsrae

BOBCAT: https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/Ad ... ses-4.html

We are lucky that we can just click “load supplies” and don’t have to worry about what order they are loaded in!
It sounds like the real life operation loaded in transport mode and should have loaded in amphib mode.

Having been on a wet asroc deck with a whole bunch of other available seamen (E3 and under usually) hauling on a 3" diameter manila line further ruining a pair of leather gloves on the ancient Charlie Deuce during 10'-12' seas which did not bother the tanker at all but had another bunch of freshly reported young'uns holding a meeting on the fantail - the above statement gets a very hearty
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!