UK and US morale

[BillRunacre]

ORIGINAL: EarlyDoors

July 1946
Allies have liberated
- urumchi (china is back in the game)
- singapore
- DEI
- formosa & okinawa

manilla holding out
guam holding

russians beseiging irkutsk

Challenge ID 346287

Thanks for this, it is very useful for pointers to what boosts to add in.

Yes, if you can get Manila and Guam then that will end any scripted deductions to US NM.

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

Might be fun, to allow the USA/UK to spend MMPs on "Morale boaster" events.

1) Doolittle Raid - spend 75 bux + lose half squadron of Tactical bombers, but gain Morale against the Juntas.
2) Buy US War Bonds - Yanks spend 100 bux to basically buy morale
3) Yanks are all about Heroes & Cowboys- Audie Murphy stops Germans yet again, single-handedly *Huge for troop morale

American News Media worked the audiences for morale:

[EarlyDoors]

ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

ORIGINAL: EarlyDoors

I can't find the changelog for ? v1.12 ?
Can you post the pacific locations that affect NM?

Here are the relevant ones:

The USA currently loses 25 National Morale points per turn if Hawaii including its ports are under Axis occupation. This will now increase to 125 points per turn that Honolulu is occupied by the Axis. It will increase to 250 points per turn from the 1st January 1943, and 350 points per turn from the 1st January 1944 (ElvisJJonesRambo ; firsteds; taffjones; pjg100).
• The USA will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Manila is occupied by the Axis. This will increase to 100 points per turn from the 1st January 1944.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that American Samoa is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Kukum is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Fiji is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Guam is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Batavia is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Sydney is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Wellington is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Singapore is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK and USA will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Calcutta is occupied by the Axis, while India will lose 75.

The USA currently loses 25 National Morale points per turn if Hawaii including its ports are under Axis occupation. This will now increase to 125 points per turn that Honolulu is occupied by the Axis. It will increase to 250 points per turn from the 1st January 1943, and 350 points per turn from the 1st January 1944 (ElvisJJonesRambo ; firsteds; taffjones; pjg100).
• The USA will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Manila is occupied by the Axis. This will increase to 100 points per turn from the 1st January 1944.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that American Samoa is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Kukum is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Fiji is occupied by the Axis.
• The USA will now lose 30 National Morale points per turn that Guam is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Batavia is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Sydney is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK, USA and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Wellington is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK and India will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Singapore is occupied by the Axis.
• The UK and USA will now lose 50 National Morale points per turn that Calcutta is occupied by the Axis, while India will lose 75.

Ah, that's great thank you
I can never find what i need with the Matrix forum search feature

So..it looks like i'd been losing 1% NM every 2 turns whilst Pearl Harbor was occupied
but more recently 1% every 6 turns


i don't think this fully explains the USA NM falls

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

Morale didn't turn around for the Yanks, because some accountant added up donations to the Red Cross. After the disaster of Battle of Kasserine Pass, things changed, because of one person. Morale improved, General Patton. Things changed, in 10 days with real leadership. All the German hype was over. No more sleeping farmers in Poland, Demark, Netherlands, France, etc. Patton should clearly be the highest ranked & influencing piece in the game. Repeat, things changed in 10-days. Same men, same equipment, same everything, that had just got their asses kicked. Patton is the real deal. All the Bunta worship can be tossed out the window. This is no different than comparing the bums the North had in early days of 1861 (McClellan , Burnside, Hooker), then came Grant from the West. Ulysses was a beast.

Wherever Patton is, morale should be spiked up, big-time. That's a fact, and undeniable. HQ pieces need modified. Too many bums given nearly same skillset. Patton is a 10. If Rommel was so smart, he wouldn't have been buying shoes on D-Day. If Manstein & the rest were so dam_n good, they would have packed a jacket, hung up the phone on the Corporal and not get erased at Stalingrad.

Patton was stripped of his command, before D-Day; AND HE STILL WAS A FACTOR. The Germans knew he was the man. Dude was a 10-rated General w/o even have an Army. Decoy.

Clearly, this dude should be a 10

[OldCrowBalthazor]

ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

Thanks for this, I've had a look and run a test and you'll be glad to know that only casualties are reducing US National Morale at the moment.

Man, when I said the Americans were doing the heavy lifting (in the west), I wasn't kidding. Thanks Bill!

..."Well, now we ain't done yet boys. If you want to go home, lets finish the job on these Hinies then its apple pie and sweet hearts." -Sargent Rock

[ThunderLizard11]

ORIGINAL: ElvisJJonesRambo

Morale didn't turn around for the Yanks, because some accountant added up donations to the Red Cross. After the disaster of Battle of Kasserine Pass, things changed, because of one person. Morale improved, General Patton. Things changed, in 10 days with real leadership. All the German hype was over. No more sleeping farmers in Poland, Demark, Netherlands, France, etc. Patton should clearly be the highest ranked & influencing piece in the game. Repeat, things changed in 10-days. Same men, same equipment, same everything, that had just got their asses kicked. Patton is the real deal. All the Bunta worship can be tossed out the window. This is no different than comparing the bums the North had in early days of 1861 (McClellan , Burnside, Hooker), then came Grant from the West. Ulysses was a beast.

Wherever Patton is, morale should be spiked up, big-time. That's a fact, and undeniable. HQ pieces need modified. Too many bums given nearly same skillset. Patton is a 10. If Rommel was so smart, he wouldn't have been buying shoes on D-Day. If Manstein & the rest were so dam_n good, they would have packed a jacket, hung up the phone on the Corporal and not get erased at Stalingrad.

Patton was stripped of his command, before D-Day; AND HE STILL WAS A FACTOR. The Germans knew he was the man. Dude was a 10-rated General w/o even have an Army. Decoy.

Clearly, this dude should be a 10

I'm more of a Bradley fan but okay. I'd put Bradley ahead at 7 with Patton at 6. Why is Bradley not on the list though?

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

Omar set the table, was part of the Chiefs of Staff, I think. Was Patton's boss, and was Ike's right hand man. Wanna say Bradley oversaw the entire landing forces at D-Day, while as Patton was Army/Corp level. Who knows what went on behind close doors. Hadn't read his book.

Yanks had alot planning, more than the Germans, who just divided Army Groups, and headed to Russia. Supply & organization mayhem for G.I. Joe. For gaming purposes, these Leaders had different scheme of work. Ike, as Supreme Commander, probably shouldn't be an HQ.