Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:22 pm
wow lot of good changes. Thanks!
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Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:09 pm
Thank you. Tanks breaking down while being railed was annoying and led to week long delays in early 1942 because you had to wait for snow levels to melt away. Can this be applied to an ongoing campaign?
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:10 pm
thanks so much for accounting players feedback and making such a great patch!
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:19 pm
Great work guys!
Can't wait to try out the new changes. The Rename tab is excellent.
Thanks for fixing the sound!
Can't wait to try out the new changes. The Rename tab is excellent.
Thanks for fixing the sound!
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:38 pm
Thanks for all the work that goes into these changes. I think it looks really positive!Erik Rutins wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:32 pm I've just updated the first post with the change list for the new 1.0.2.39 public beta update.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:39 am
Thanks for the Beta patch.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:33 am
Thanks for the Beta patch.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:50 am
That’s quite a significant change in CPP management. Thanks a lot. Let’s go with the testing. 
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:16 am
Good to see that CPP has been changed and there is alot of other interesting changes as well. Well done. Will be interesting to test.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:34 am
I always get excited about a new release.
Thx.
(In the new editor when you open a scenario there is a typo, FUNCTOINS)
Thx.
(In the new editor when you open a scenario there is a typo, FUNCTOINS)
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:42 am
By how much and under what circumstances? Will 3 full strength divisions of the opposing side suffer increased attrition if they are hugged by an understrength, unready regiment/brigade just the same as if it were 3 full strength divisions instead of the regiment/brigade?Increased general front line attrition (damage/destruction of ground elements in units next to an enemy controlled hex).
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:04 pm
It doesn't matter what is opposite you for front line attrition. As long as a unit is adjacent to an enemy unit in their logistics phase, they will take front line attrition damage.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:25 pm
It would be correct to complicate the formula for calculating depletion losses. They should depend on the size of the enemy and the terrain. After all, these are the losses of low-intensity battles, and not just non-combat losses.Joel Billings wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:04 pm It doesn't matter what is opposite you for front line attrition. As long as a unit is adjacent to an enemy unit in their logistics phase, they will take front line attrition damage.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:06 pm
+1malyhin1517 wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:25 pm
It would be correct to complicate the formula for calculating depletion losses. They should depend on the size of the enemy and the terrain. After all, these are the losses of low-intensity battles, and not just non-combat losses.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:54 pm
For all I can read even a -vacant- enemy hex will increase attrition.
Latest patch 'killed' my games (both I and opponent are unwilling to play with this beta and these attrition changes and other things - the CPP change is good though).
Latest patch 'killed' my games (both I and opponent are unwilling to play with this beta and these attrition changes and other things - the CPP change is good though).
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:51 am
I asked Gary today about the front line attrition and he said the unit has to be next to an enemy unit to suffer these losses.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:29 pm
Seems sensible, but where do you stop?malyhin1517 wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:25 pmIt would be correct to complicate the formula for calculating depletion losses. They should depend on the size of the enemy and the terrain. After all, these are the losses of low-intensity battles, and not just non-combat losses.Joel Billings wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:04 pm It doesn't matter what is opposite you for front line attrition. As long as a unit is adjacent to an enemy unit in their logistics phase, they will take front line attrition damage.
Right now, the rules for frontline attrition are simple. If next to an enemy unit, take more damage in logistics phase. We start taking into account division/brigade/regiment size and number of units, ok. Then people start complaining how unfair it is that a 35 exp division is equal to a 95 exp one when attrition damage is concerned, and step by step we would end up with full-on battle simulation?
Now, I am probably commiting a slippery slope logical fallacy here, but is there a satisfactory point that does not diminish verisimilitude and also does not make the logistics phase even more complicated?
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:59 pm
AFAIK, units with different experience should suffer different attrition already 
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:22 pm
This is from WITE#1 and I assume it would be the same for #2.FortTell wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:29 pmSeems sensible, but where do you stop?malyhin1517 wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:25 pmIt would be correct to complicate the formula for calculating depletion losses. They should depend on the size of the enemy and the terrain. After all, these are the losses of low-intensity battles, and not just non-combat losses.Joel Billings wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:04 pm It doesn't matter what is opposite you for front line attrition. As long as a unit is adjacent to an enemy unit in their logistics phase, they will take front line attrition damage.
Right now, the rules for frontline attrition are simple. If next to an enemy unit, take more damage in logistics phase. We start taking into account division/brigade/regiment size and number of units, ok. Then people start complaining how unfair it is that a 35 exp division is equal to a 95 exp one when attrition damage is concerned, and step by step we would end up with full-on battle simulation?
Now, I am probably commiting a slippery slope logical fallacy here, but is there a satisfactory point that does not diminish verisimilitude and also does not make the logistics phase even more complicated?
9.5.2. FRONT LINE ATTRITION
The higher unit morale and ground element experience level, the fewer
combat attrition losses.
Re: New v1.02.39 Public Beta Now Available!
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:35 pm
Yes, it is impacted by experience/morale ratings.