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RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:36 pm
by Arnir
ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn
In SeeKreig, maneuverability was: square root of ((wing area / empty weight) * 0.178). This was the minimum speed that the plane could make a 2G turn. Maneuverability was then put into another formulato find overall offensive rating.
I'll probably kick myself when you tell me, but what is SeeKreig?
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:49 pm
by Damien Thorn
ORIGINAL: Arnir
I'll probably kick myself when you tell me, but what is SeeKreig?
http://www.seekrieg.com/
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:51 pm
by nico71
It's interesting to see that wargamers deal with tables day in and day out, but I'm astonished that no one can give me a definite answer. [X(] I have feared that I was the only one who doesn't really understand this stuff. Good to know that I'm not alone here! LOL! Okay, it seems that I simply have to believe the numbers. After all it's not a flight sim, and it's all about dice rolling and probabilities. [;)] But I still don't know how to determine the aircraft capabilities, especially when comparing aircraft types! I haven't found this information in BTR and UV either.
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:04 pm
by Arnir
Thanks.
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:14 pm
by Subchaser
ORIGINAL: pad152
Aircraft data incomplete???
I see only one KI-43 (Ki-43-Ib) there were two (KI-43-I, KI-43-II).
Even UV had two!!![X(]
There are 67 japanese a/c in WitP, 65 of them are in the list posted by KevH (thanks a lot man!),
One Oscar model and one another a/c are missing. Here is an original bmp file with Japanese a/c profiles.

RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:36 pm
by Damien Thorn
ORIGINAL: Subchaser
There are 67 japanese a/c in WitP, 65 of them are in the list posted by KevH (thanks a lot man!),
One Oscar model and one another a/c are missing. Here is an original bmp file with Japanese a/c profiles.
So it's easy, we just have to look at the pictures and figure out which one is not on the list. [:)]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:40 pm
by Oznoyng
Okay, now that I am slicing and dicing this info with a spreadsheet... Can you post something on the upgrade paths?
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:44 pm
by Mr.Frag
Here's Japan:
ID Name Upg
1 A5M4 Claude 3
2 A6M2-N Rufe
3 A6M2 Zero 5
4 A6M3 Zero 5
5 A6M5 Zeke 6
6 A6M8 Zeke 7
7 A7M2 Reppu
9 N1K1-J George 11
10 J2M Jack 11
11 J7W Shinden
12 J1N1-S Irving 13
13 C6N1-S Myrt
15 D1A Susie 16
16 D3A Val 17
17 D4Y Judy
18 A6M5c Zeke
20 B4U Jean 21
21 B5N Kate 22
22 B6N Jill 23
23 B7A Grace
25 G3M Nell 26
26 G4M1 Betty 27
27 G4M2 Betty
28 G4M2e Betty
29 P1Y Frances
31 J1N1-R Irving 33
32 C5M Babs 31
33 C6N Myrt
35 H6K4 Mavis 36
36 H8K Emily
38 H6K2-L Mavis
39 L1N1 Thora
40 L3Y Tina
41 E14Y1 Glen
42 E8N Dave 44
43 F1M2 Pete
44 E13A1 Jake
45 E7K2 Alf
47 Ki-27 Nate 49
48 Ki-43-Ib Oscar 55
49 Ki-43-IIa Oscar 49
50 Ki-44-IIb Tojo 56
51 Ki-45 KAIa Nick 53
52 Ki-45 KAIb Nick 59
53 Ki-45 KAIc Nick
54 Ki-46-III KAI Dinah 59
55 Ki-61 KAIc Tony 58
56 Ki-84-Ia Frank 57
57 Ki-84-Ic Frank
58 Ki-100 Tony
59 Ki-102a Randy
61 Ki-60 Ann 63
62 Ki-32 Mary 65
63 Ki-51 Sonia
64 Ki-21 Sally 67
65 Ki-48 Lily 59
66 Ki-49 Helen 67
67 Ki-67 Peggy
68 Ki-46-III Dinah
69 Ki-46-II Dinah 68
70 Ki-15 Babs 69
71 Ki-36 Ida
72 Ki-57-II Topsy
73 Ki-59 Theresa 75
74 MC-21 Sally
75 Ki-54 Hickory
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:53 pm
by Subchaser
ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn
ORIGINAL: Subchaser
There are 67 japanese a/c in WitP, 65 of them are in the list posted by KevH (thanks a lot man!),
One Oscar model and one another a/c are missing. Here is an original bmp file with Japanese a/c profiles.
So it's easy, we just have to look at the pictures and figure out which one is not on the list. [:)]
So take it as some kind of a quiz…go figure! [;)]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:57 pm
by Mr.Frag
So take it as some kind of a quiz…go figure!
All you need to know is the 12th row, 3rd over is the one aircraft that you will learn to hate Japan for. [:D]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:10 pm
by Subchaser
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
So take it as some kind of a quiz…go figure!
All you need to know is the 12th row, 3rd over is the one aircraft that you will learn to hate Japan for. [:D]
3rd in 12th row is Ki-27 Nate…at least it looks like Nate… yep I don’t like it, but look how many other excellent a/c around [:)]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:13 pm
by Alexander Seil
Now if only we could get a similar table for the Allied aircraft

RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:14 pm
by Mr.Frag
Now if only we could get a similar table for the Allied aircraft
<groan>
Thats a heck of a lot of typing. Japan matters because you have to actually deal with the production. The Allies just keep getting more of everything so who cares? [:D]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:22 pm
by pad152
Mr. Frag
You forget One!! the A6M5c Zero
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:28 pm
by Mr.Frag
You forget One!! the A6M5c Zero
Nope, look again [;)]
RE: Aircraft data table
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:38 pm
by Alexander Seil
What I meant was a screenshot table, rather than a table of a/c values (since they are already included in the file given to us). Can't be too hard to attach a file, can it be? :p