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congratulations to greece....

they were the best in 04 and deseved the championship. Rehagel did a great job, but without the will and the fighting spirit of his players he had been just another Rudi Völler.

No, everybody who try to downsize this huge and historical succsess of greek soccer is just narrowminded.

After "my" german team came home early (jep they deserved their fate, better know as in 2006) i was a supporter of the greeks, and i feared for them like i had for the germans. The bs about the referee and rehagel, well - they disliked and everybody should tell me, why did the portugies did not made some goals ? But also thank you to portugal, great show, great team, they deserved to be nr.2 because after beeing nearly out of the tournament, they fought back.

So, [&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o] to greece and a happy olympia 2004 (if they will be finish it and it has not to be delayed until 2005 [:D]

Woo Hoo!

That's all I can say. My dad is Greek so he followed this thing and gave me daily updates. Reminds me of when they won the Euro basketball championship.

Congrats all around!

Lets hope their hosting of the Olympics is as successful as their soccer was!

I've heard by the way that while they are struggling to finish some of the facilities, those that have been completed are spectacular!

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

Take Ronaldo away from the Brazilian team and they´re no cent better then any European team.

I would like to see how Brazil plays against Greece. They had quite a few problems against the (bad) germans in the finals, remember [;)] ?

Hahahahahaha That was a funny one !!!!!!!!!! Hahahahaha.....
Take Ronaldinho out of the Brazilian team and it won´t make too much of a difference really. Brazil is such a granary of footbal players that it is just a matter of adjusting the team. In my opinion, Brazil can place at least 3 teams playing in the world cup and would still have more chance to win than any other team.
What the rest of the world have, is that from time to time, one have a good or an awsome team, but rarely, Brazil almost allways has a fantastic team, if not fantastic, it will still be very competitive.
Example : France now has a good team, but the last good team that they had were the 82 - 86 teams, whith Michel Platini.
Example 2 : Germany had a good team in 74, then a power team in 90, after that, it is just going down and down. To say that we had problems in beating Germany in the last world cup is just sad.
Example 3 : Holand, 74 - 78 that was all, they had also a nice team during the nineties, but who cares about holand anyways ? Only europeans....
Example 4 : BRAZIL, we are having good teams since 1950, all of them should have won world cups, but as I said, from time to time, appears a good team to make a even match against us, but the only bad team that Brazil ever presented in a world cup was in 1990. The diference is this, its pretty unusual for Brazil to have a bad quality team, but it is a rarety for any other European team to present a good team in two world cups in a row.

Its the truth guys, I am sorry, but it is the truth. It hurts, I know....

But congrats to Greece, it was a major feat !!!!

Ahhhhh

Having 5 world cups when only two other poor fellows have only 3, some has two and sad England and France have only 1 each must be truly enerving as well.

The prospect of having to win two world cups to still equal Brazil must be very very depressing.

I am capable of beting that we will also win in Germany in 2006.

By the way, all our world cups were won away from home, we don´t really need to be playing at home.

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Brazil can place at least 3 teams playing in the world cup and would still have more chance to win than any other team.

I agree. It seems like everytime I watch Brazil play in the world cup they have 2-3 players on the sidelines that would be the stars on almost any other team in the tournament. But they can't get any playing time with Brazil because all the guys on the field are even better than they are!

Its insane how much soccer talent that country produces. That's why they are the most entertaining team to watch, year in and year out. They just play on a different level than everyone else.

Its like the US and basketball (back when we actually sent our best players, not the 3rd tier teams we send now) or the old Soviet Union and hockey.

Its like the US and basketball (back when we actually sent our best players, not the 3rd tier teams we send now) or the old Soviet Union and hockey.

I wouldn´t go that far, they don´t win all the time. It´s not that Brazil allways rules the World Championships are the South American Cup [;)]

They have great stars, great individual players. but they also often suffer from the same problem like for example the Italians. No real team spirit and too many individual players that produce a good ammount of rivalry among the team.

When they play good they´re pleasure to watch, that´s true.