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RE: any good books?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:08 pm
by MengCiao
ORIGINAL: Yank

Read all three. I liked the Costello book the best and the Van der Vat book the least. I thought the Costello book was the best in terms of content and by far the most enjoyable to read. It is well written.

Yeap...the Costello book is a very good book.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:45 am
by RayM
v166:

A few books dealing with specific locations:

Tarawa: (BTW, Lots of books for this battle)

Mantle of Heroism: Tarawa and the Struggle for the Gilberts, Nov. 1943; Michael B. Graham

Bougainville:

Bougainville 1943-1945: The Forgotten Campaign; Harry A. Gailey

New Georgia:

Into the Shadows Furious: The Brutal Battle for New Georgia; Brian Altobello

Saipan:

Battling for Saipan; Francis A. O'Brien

The Solomon Islands chain:

The Solomons Campaigns: From Guadalcanal to Bougainville - Pacific War Turning Point; Willliam L. McGee

The Glory of the Solomons; Edwin P. Hoyt


RayM

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:04 am
by SunDevil_MatrixForum
Maybe this thread can be stickied at the top?

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:17 am
by DrewMatrix
In addition to just searching Amazon, also remember to search:

http://www.usni.org/ (The US Naval Institute) and

http://www.usni.org/press/press.html (the Book Publishing section)

The US Naval Institute has LOTS on all eras of naval history, but mostly WWII and modern.

I agree with many of the recomendations above. I would also mention an odd book: "A Handful of Emeralds" by Joseph Meredith. This is at usni.org press.

Meredith was an officer in WWII, but then immediately after the war (late 1940s) commanded a DE in the western Pacific. In this book he revisits the WWII battle sites, particularly the Marianas. He is the US Marshal, the tow truck for stranded ships, the game warden, the ambulance and the only authority for hundreds of miles in any direction as a young officer commanding his own (small) ship.

Highly recommended for its flavor of being at sea and all alone, and for the views of Saipan etc right after the war. More like "Mr. Roberts" than a history, but a true account/

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:13 am
by VI66_slith
Hi!

RayM,

The Boganville book is just what the doctor ordered.

Thanks!

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:14 am
by SunDevil_MatrixForum
This is a great list guys, keep on adding them if you find more.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:18 am
by brisd
ORIGINAL: MythicalMino

I just bought 3 books from Amazon.com

1. Eagle Against the Sun: The American War With Japan by Ronald H. Spector

2. PACIFIC CAMPAIGN: THE U.S.-JAPANESE NAVAL WAR 1941-1945 by Dan Van der Vat

3. The Pacific War by John Costello


I am hoping that these are as good as they sound. I am really wanting something that will "teach" me the strategy used in the Pacific.

I've read the first two and am currently reading the last one, which is the biggest of the bunch. I recommend them all.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:55 am
by Cmdrcain
ORIGINAL: MythicalMino

I just bought 3 books from Amazon.com

1. Eagle Against the Sun: The American War With Japan by Ronald H. Spector

2. PACIFIC CAMPAIGN: THE U.S.-JAPANESE NAVAL WAR 1941-1945 by Dan Van der Vat

3. The Pacific War by John Costello


I am hoping that these are as good as they sound. I am really wanting something that will "teach" me the strategy used in the Pacific.


#1 and #3 I have and their good, so is Tolands.
Theres also Midway, Gudacanal, Rising Sun, authors escape my Memory.

Theres Many good Books out there.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:03 am
by Cmdrcain
* A Battle History of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Paul S. Dull

Good one, it is based on japanese documents so gives viewpoints from that side.

*Guadalcanal: The Carrier Battles, Eric Hammel

Good too


* Guadalcanal, Edwin P. Hoyt

This is the Gudalcanel book In prior post I made

* The Rising Sun, John Toland

Good one

* The End of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Masanori Ito (English translation, 1962)

I've been looking for this [:(]



* Rising Sun Victorious: The Alternative History of How the Japanese Won the Pacific War (Interesting 'What If' book. There is also a similar book for the ETO and Eastern Front)

It is indeed interesting


* Japan's War: The Great Pacific Conflict, Edwin P. Hoyt

Good one

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:38 am
by 52nd Lowland
ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

* A Battle History of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Paul S. Dull

Good one, it is based on japanese documents so gives viewpoints from that side.

*Guadalcanal: The Carrier Battles, Eric Hammel

Good too


* Guadalcanal, Edwin P. Hoyt

This is the Gudalcanel book In prior post I made

* The Rising Sun, John Toland

Good one

* The End of The Imperial Japanese Navy, Masanori Ito (English translation, 1962)

I've been looking for this [:(]



* Rising Sun Victorious: The Alternative History of How the Japanese Won the Pacific War (Interesting 'What If' book. There is also a similar book for the ETO and Eastern Front)

It is indeed interesting


* Japan's War: The Great Pacific Conflict, Edwin P. Hoyt

Good one

Theres some good alternative scenarios in that book that could be turned out for scenarios for WitP,such as the Japanese invasion of Australia or the War Plan Orange Chapter.

I would also add Downfall : The end of the Imperial Japanese Empire - which covers the US and Japanese plans for the decisive battle to come in Japan.
Also two works of fiction on Operation Olympic : The Burning Mountain by Alfred Coppel and Lighter that a Feather by David Westheimer.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:31 pm
by donkuchi19
I have been reading the Costello book while the turns are being played out by the computer. I get through about a section each turn.

(I also sometimes have Tora, Tora, Tora; Midway; or The Thin Red Line playing on the DVD player to watch between turns)

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:03 pm
by Cmdrcain
ORIGINAL: donkuchi

I have been reading the Costello book while the turns are being played out by the computer. I get through about a section each turn.

(I also sometimes have Tora, Tora, Tora; Midway; or The Thin Red Line playing on the DVD player to watch between turns)


[:D][:D]

My Pc area is such that right to the right side i have a TV on and I usually tune in on history channel or might put a tape or dvd in to play
myself, oh and I have just 3 steps away on the Right a Mini-Refridge... loaded with nice cold drinks [:D]

Just past the Tv is food...in a pantry... munchies etc... now If only they would build a chair with a built in toilet I'd not have to leave the room at all [:'(]

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:52 pm
by Banquet
ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

now If only they would build a chair with a built in toilet I'd not have to leave the room at all [:'(]

[:D] Since buying WiTP my girlfriend has said that if I had one of these she doesn't think I'd move all evening! (she's right too!)

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:11 pm
by Mr.Frag
ORIGINAL: Banquet
ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

now If only they would build a chair with a built in toilet I'd not have to leave the room at all [:'(]

[:D] Since buying WiTP my girlfriend has said that if I had one of these she doesn't think I'd move all evening! (she's right too!)


Get a laptop and take it with you [:D]

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:19 pm
by Tiornu
ORIGINAL: mccavage
Fleets of World War Two by Richard Preston - A very opinionated but fascinating look at the fleets by individual ship class and overall. A lot of the cachet some vessels have enjoyed get punctured when the actual designs and performance are examined.
I must agree it's a great book--everyone should own several copies!--though the correct reference is Fleets of World War II by the handsome and witty Richard Worth. Not only is the book bursting with good information, but you can also use it to repave your driveway, tile the roof, or wall in that wine critic you have concealed in the cellar. (Poe reference! My day is complete.) Signed copies are available.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:29 am
by donkuchi19
I also have a copy of Janes Fighting Ships of WWII. Cool for a reference with more details than the data base.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:15 am
by RayM
Hey SunDevil,

Are you a graduate of ASU? I'm a 1976 ASU grad.

RayM

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:58 am
by Tiornu
Jane's is fun. Most of the information for the Allied ships is at least in the right ballpark, though there are entries like the 16in belt armor on US battleships. I wouldn't trust it for Axis ships at all. Mogami class displacement, off by 30%. Hipper class displacement, off by 50%. They didn't dare reproduce the information originally cited for the Yamatos, which weren't even called Yamatos at first--Kii class, 40,000+ tons, nine 16in guns, 30+ knots. I think they should have gone ahead with that info instead of cheating and putting in something accurate.

RE: any good books?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:08 am
by Cmdrcain
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
ORIGINAL: Banquet
ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

now If only they would build a chair with a built in toilet I'd not have to leave the room at all [:'(]

[:D] Since buying WiTP my girlfriend has said that if I had one of these she doesn't think I'd move all evening! (she's right too!)


Get a laptop and take it with you [:D]


But then I would be leaving the room away from the TV, the Munchies the Cold drinks...

If the desk was 1 Inch Higher I'd been able put the mini-fridge under the one next to this and just reach in for a cold one... not get up and take 3 steps.. [&o]

RE: any good books?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:56 pm
by SunDevil_MatrixForum
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