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RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:09 pm
by mongo
Absolutely right Frag.

considering you can control the Pacific War down to individual ships and battalions....sheesh

[&o]

to the authors

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:40 pm
by freeboy
Anouther hq area of great confusion???
Where do reinforcments arive vis a vis hq's? I am talking new units not replacements...
please do not tell me te reread the manual I just cannot take it anymore

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:46 pm
by fbastos
Where do reinforcments arive vis a vis hq's? I am talking new units not replacements...

That depends completely on the editor, right? I can set a unit on say Melbourne and set it to arrive on Dec 27, 1941.. should be okay, I think.

Ask me not what happens if the the place where I set it to arrive has been occupied.. :-o

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:52 pm
by mongo
New units will generally arrive at your nation's HQ (SF, Karachi, Osaka, etc).

There are some units that appear in different places though? The location of arrival is listed in the info screen under LCU reinforcements.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:53 pm
by rogueusmc
Think or replacements/supply this way:

A base belongs to SOPAC.

Present are a SOPAC HQ and a NORPAC HQ.

BG 'A' belongs to NORPAC. BG 'B' belongs to SOPAC.

BG 'B' will be supplied and supported by the base and HQ including replacements and upgrades.

BG 'A' will be supported because support is support. Supplies will be dealt to them from the base but they take second place to SOPAC units. They will not be dealt replacement and upgrades here because it is not a SOPAC unit. Replacements and upgrades are dealt out down through a certain command...being as the NORPAC HQ and BG aren't at a NORPAC base, they are assed out.

Supply and support are generic...replacements and upgrades aren't.

Change the NORPAC units to SOPAC units and they will get everything.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:02 am
by fbastos
There are some units that appear in different places though? The location of arrival is listed in the info screen under LCU reinforcements.

I thought whatever you set in the editor is honored.. almost all of them are set for Karachi, San Francisco, Sydney, etc..., but I thought you could just change that. Never done that, though.

By the way, Australian air units arrive all over the place - Sydney, Brisbane, etc...

F.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:21 am
by rogueusmc
Those are reinforcement units....not replacements...replacements are supply pretty much.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:41 am
by Captain Cruft
What would have helped this confusion is if there were an Independent HQ that you could assign air groups to. The manual would then have stated that you need to switch from whatever restricted HQ to Independent in order to free up the units.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:26 pm
by rogueusmc
But then you'd have to pay PPs again to reassign them to another HQ

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:29 pm
by Captain Cruft
Yes but once they are Independent there is never any need to re-assign them again.

As Mr Frag has stated countless times already, it is the HQ of the base that is relevant for air group replacements, not the HQ of the air unit.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:33 pm
by rogueusmc
That would be a cheezy way to get around the whole HQ problem huh?

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:42 pm
by f4migcap
I'm still alittle confused but have an example and you guys can tell me if I have it right

On Batavia I have the ABDA headquarters, several ABDA units (land, sea, air), a B-17 group under SouthWest Pacific HQ, and a Malay land unit from Singapore under its HQ(can't remember what it is, I'm at work :)
They will all get supply and support but only the ABDA units will get replacements, is that right?

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:49 pm
by Mr.Frag
On Batavia I have the ABDA headquarters, several ABDA units (land, sea, air), a B-17 group under SouthWest Pacific HQ, and a Malay land unit from Singapore under its HQ(can't remember what it is, I'm at work :)
They will all get supply and support but only the ABDA units will get replacements, is that right?

Nope, as long as there is enough to go around, they will all get replacements. Just remember the no upgrade rule for the dutch.

Base = upgrades, not unit [:D]

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:52 pm
by rogueusmc
The ABDA units get priority on supply...replacements are a form of supply.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:56 pm
by Mr.Frag
The ABDA units get priority on supply...replacements are a form of supply.

If your supply is so tight that only some units will get the goods, bases that *have* the supplies will get the goods, not ABDA first.

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:59 pm
by rogueusmc
On Batavia...

Brain fart

RE: Thanks but does this answer my question

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:10 pm
by f4migcap
Ok, think I got it. [:)] Thanks