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Meh. I've had both happen. I've actually had B-17s shoot down a couple Zeroes and take no losses in return.

Forget about it - it's a non-issue.

ORIGINAL: Alikchi

Meh. I've had both happen. I've actually had B-17s shoot down a couple Zeroes and take no losses in return.

Forget about it - it's a non-issue.

In almost a month of war I finally killed some B-17s in the air. I got 3 with my zeros and lost several zeros in return.. Now add in FOW and I probably only shot down 1 or 2 planes.. These are the first B-17s killed in air to air... The rest have been caught on the ground... I agree its probably the manuever bonus given to the zeros that stop the B-17s from mauling them early in the war... But as soon as the patch comes out, push those babies up over 30,000 feet and the zereos can't touch them.

Xargun

As long as the B17's accuracy drops alot, I have no problem with not being able to get at them. But it better be a big drop in accuracy.

Wasn't the B17c that we have in the early war the version without the tailguns? If so, then somewhat higher losses would seem warranted. That would seem to be a serious weakness on an aircraft that large and unwieldy.

There aren't that many "C" models available--just the 35 that start in the Phillipines, and about half of those will be destroyed on the ground the first turn. There are no replacements--ever. At the start of the war, Boeing was already producing the "E" model, which was the first to have a configuration similar to the "F" model that became so famous in Europe.

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Wasn't the B17c that we have in the early war the version without the tailguns? If so, then somewhat higher losses would seem warranted. That would seem to be a serious weakness on an aircraft that large and unwieldy.

Don't forget the B-17s carried 50 cal MGs I believe... Any japanese plane is meat against that kind of firepower... AND japanese planes don't really have the firepower to chew through B-17s very easily... All things equal in a zero vs B-17 battle, I would guess the B-17s win..

Xargun

Ok,
Obviously none of you know the story of a lad named Chiteng... And the fact that this thread is still active scares me. For those of you who have seen the movie, you've all just said "Beetlejuice" twice... One more time and we're in trouble...

Let's just leave the B-17 issue alone for now... Trust me.

"Beetlejuice" "Beetlejuice" "Beetlejuice" [:'(]