RE: WWII Generals we admire/think are underated.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:34 pm
can't agree with that. Midway failed because the huge diversion of forces. Instead of making a concentrated attack against one spot with the most weapons at hand as possible, the Japanese dispersed their fleet around all the central and northern pacific areas. had the whole combined fleet focused on Midway, the results would've been VERY different (more flattops around, more scouting platforms apart of the extra carriers, etc). Because of that Midway planning ran completely against Sun-Tzu rules, for instance. And had Midway been planned as an attack with a concentration of forces, is VERY unlikely the outcome would've been adverse for the Japanese.
Midway attack plan hoped to distract the attention of the Americans far north to the Aleutians so they would be caught off-attention on Midway. It could've payed dividends if the code-breaking had not happened...however, I see it as a failure and a very high risk
First because with all the KB (xcept the Shokaku and Zuikaku) focused around Midway, if the Americans came to battle, they were to fight a battle with less numbers of carriers and carrier aircraft around.
Second because the japanese assumed that the Americans had bited for the Aleutians trap, and never did true efforts in the searches conducted by the fleet, as they didn't think there were any american carriers nearby. They got confident and payed a dearly price for it. In an all-out attack without distraction operations they wouldn't have run confident, would've been with all eyes open and in all probability the american CVs would've been spotted much before and with better chances of attacking them successfully while not being caught off-ward
Remember that Nagumo was caught with his planes launching because he had to rearm the planes he had chosen to arm with land-attack bombs...if he had certainty or at least uncertainty about nearby enemy carriers ,he'd never have reloaded them from naval-strike to Ground-strike configuration, and wouldn't have had to reverse orders later when the Yorktown was reported...the strike would've been launched quite before the real launch happened and the SBD wouldn't have caught the japanese carriers in such a vulnerable position...
Midway plan was fundamentally flawed IMHO...
Midway attack plan hoped to distract the attention of the Americans far north to the Aleutians so they would be caught off-attention on Midway. It could've payed dividends if the code-breaking had not happened...however, I see it as a failure and a very high risk
First because with all the KB (xcept the Shokaku and Zuikaku) focused around Midway, if the Americans came to battle, they were to fight a battle with less numbers of carriers and carrier aircraft around.
Second because the japanese assumed that the Americans had bited for the Aleutians trap, and never did true efforts in the searches conducted by the fleet, as they didn't think there were any american carriers nearby. They got confident and payed a dearly price for it. In an all-out attack without distraction operations they wouldn't have run confident, would've been with all eyes open and in all probability the american CVs would've been spotted much before and with better chances of attacking them successfully while not being caught off-ward
Remember that Nagumo was caught with his planes launching because he had to rearm the planes he had chosen to arm with land-attack bombs...if he had certainty or at least uncertainty about nearby enemy carriers ,he'd never have reloaded them from naval-strike to Ground-strike configuration, and wouldn't have had to reverse orders later when the Yorktown was reported...the strike would've been launched quite before the real launch happened and the SBD wouldn't have caught the japanese carriers in such a vulnerable position...
Midway plan was fundamentally flawed IMHO...