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RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:47 pm
by MengCiao
ORIGINAL: irrelevant
ORIGINAL: MengCiao
ORIGINAL: irrelevant
But Global Warming is just a theory.[;)]
I thought it was a confirmed observation. What is a bit theoretical is to what extent some of it is part of some "normal" cycle...like the normal cycle that cataclysmically alters the circulation of the Gulf Stream when the planet goes in and out of "Ice Ages" and so on.
It's a joke. I'm making fun of a certain US politican who wants more data before he makes up his mind as to whether it really exists or not.
I know...but the only real controversy is whether the likely range of fairly catastrophic events is "normal" or not. If there is no human impact driving the changes, then things are a great deal worse than they seem.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:02 pm
by watchtower
Some scrap here - anyone ID it?

RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:16 pm
by watchtower
This is a memorial - dude's might have copped it here - look at em!!!!!

RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:17 pm
by Feinder
Maytag.
Model 1964.
Originally available in White, Beige, and Avacado.
-F-
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:19 pm
by watchtower
Oooh avacado I'll have one - make it two, One avacado, one beige - will match my jumper.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:10 pm
by PJJ
An interesting topic!
Does anyone know of any real studies about the environmental effects of WWII? I've never heard about such studies before, but of course that doesn't mean they haven't been done!
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:17 pm
by Charbroiled
There was a pretty good documentry about the testing of a A-Bomb on Bikini Island and the long term impact on the islands ecosystem.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:53 pm
by Halsey
I'm glad I won't be around when the magnetic poles reverse. 50-100 years of the worst weather and climate changes imaginable![:D]
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:23 pm
by Sredni
lol, I found myself thinking about valdez after I had a tanker with 18k worth of oil sink off thursday island. Since then I've lost full tankers at palembang, balikpapan, tarakan, and that base on the north side of borneo.
Kinda doubt if there were volunteers running around cleaning up oil, and soaping down wildlife back in january 1942.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:28 pm
by madmickey
Actually the oil companies wanted to pipeline the oil from Alaska to the Alberta/Montana border than pipe it from there to other location in USA.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:30 pm
by bbbf
Tankers were much smaller back then. Not the big boys we see nowadays.
Ships sink all the time - something like ONE a week on average! (Don't know what they define as ships - probably Trawlers and up).
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:33 pm
by donkuchi19
Think of all of the fish that are now using those wrecks as artificial reefs now though. There may have been some short term damage, but they are now homes to the fishies.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:49 pm
by hithere
ORIGINAL: bbbf
Tankers were much smaller back then. Not the big boys we see nowadays.
Ships sink all the time - something like ONE a week on average! (Don't know what they define as ships - probably Trawlers and up).
that is a good point...not many super tankers that at least i think of back then. by the way..i did a paper one time on the effects of the magnetic pole flip flop...there is still a lot of debut whether it will be done quickly or over 100's of years or more. if it is quick..we should be ok, minus some of the obvious prob. if it is slow we are in a little trouble.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:33 pm
by cyberwop36
ORIGINAL: madmickey
Actually the oil companies wanted to pipeline the oil from Alaska to the Alberta/Montana border than pipe it from there to other location in USA.
Hope they do. I work in a steel mill that makes a lot of the plate for those pipelines. [:D][:D]
I did have a deep sence of irony that W says there is no proof of climate change as 4 hurricaines in a row hit Jeb's Florida. I don't believe in coincidences. [or spell check, lol]
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:17 am
by madmickey
ORIGINAL: cyberwop36
ORIGINAL: madmickey
Actually the oil companies wanted to pipeline the oil from Alaska to the Alberta/Montana border than pipe it from there to other location in USA.
Hope they do. I work in a steel mill that makes a lot of the plate for those pipelines. [:D][:D]
I did have a deep sence of irony that W says there is no proof of climate change as 4 hurricaines in a row hit Jeb's Florida. I don't believe in coincidences. [or spell check, lol]
That was in 1970 any new oil will be shipped through existing system.
Even though there is a good case to make for global warming, recent Hurricane acitivity is not. Hurricane activity were much more frequent prior to 1990s there was a lull for 10 years.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:19 am
by PeckingFury
ORIGINAL: cyberwop36
ORIGINAL: madmickey
Actually the oil companies wanted to pipeline the oil from Alaska to the Alberta/Montana border than pipe it from there to other location in USA.
Hope they do. I work in a steel mill that makes a lot of the plate for those pipelines. [:D][:D]
I did have a deep sence of irony that W says there is no proof of climate change as 4 hurricaines in a row hit Jeb's Florida. I don't believe in coincidences. [or spell check, lol]
LOL, was wondering when W's name was going to get linked to this thread, oil spilling into ocean......climate changes...... my kid missed a touchdown pass......I forgot to put sugar in my coffee this morning, clearly W is behind this. Lets not make this a political thread PLEASE!! election is over for most and im glad.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:35 am
by madmickey
By the way some environmentalist were predicting that the caribou would disappear because of the pipeline instead they tripled in size.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:42 am
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: madmickey
By the way some environmentalist were predicting that the caribou would disappear because of the pipeline instead they tripled in size.
And them's some mighty big carabou.
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:44 am
by bbbf
Yee Gods,
I thought Caribou were big enough already, but THREE times the size they were previously. [:D][:D][:D]
RE: Imagine if Green Peace had been around in WW2
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:51 am
by madmickey
ORIGINAL: bbbf
Yee Gods,
I thought Caribou were big enough already, but THREE times the size they were previously. [:D][:D][:D]
Think of the size of the steaks.