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RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:19 pm
by mlees
I think several other folks have agreed that an AP shell would have a more "pointy" nose.

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:22 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: mlees

I think several other folks have agreed that an AP shell would have a more "pointy" nose.

Maybe - but the 800 kg bomb was a CONVERTED shell - no need for a ballistic cap, i think.

Just guessing, though...

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:28 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: mlees

So what is Mr. Hand trying to draw our attention to?

Mr. Hand appears to be trying to point out the dark band on this thing. Why? I don't know[:(]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:33 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: mlees

So what is Mr. Hand trying to draw our attention to?

Mr. Hand appears to be trying to point out the dark band on this thing. Why? I don't know[:(]

This look disturbingly like the top part of a Japanese Army 500 kg HE bomb (14.5" diameter). The fins are missing (if that is the case) - maybe Mr. Hand is pointing out the line where they USED to be attached. There appears to be a large hole in the background. Maybe this is where they dug it from?

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:39 pm
by mlees
If your talking about the dirt pile to our left of the warhead, I think it's an AA gun emplacement. You can JUST make out the AA gun if you squint just right...

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:14 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: mlees

If your talking about the dirt pile to our left of the warhead, I think it's an AA gun emplacement. You can JUST make out the AA gun if you squint just right...

Yeah - I think you're right. I thought it was a crane/lifting device, but I think those are sandbags.

As for my idea of the 800 kg bomb - I found a picture of one - it is NOT the type 99 #80 mk 5 800 kg AP bomb used at PH. Body shape is wrong. That bomb is slightly pointed, though not so pointed as I would have thought a battleship shell would look like.

Could be part of a Japanese Type 98 #25 Land Bomb with part of fuze and fins stripped off - proportions are about right, but I don't know dimensions of this bomb yet.

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:51 pm
by tabpub
I agree with PBear...looks SturmTigery to me...remember, this is the "Special Edition"....

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:57 pm
by String
it's a part of the innovative japanese anti-tank design ofcourse..

ya know, a soldier in a hole with an aircraft bomb and a hammer [:D]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:53 am
by ADavidB
Nah, I doubt Brady would grab anything from the European theater. He's been pretty good about keeping them all Pacific based. Though I have been in "quiet" mode a while doing other things lately so anything is possible...

I thought that Brady's "special edition" photos were from his other, non-pacific war Name This posts...

Dave Baranyi

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:06 am
by bbbf
The buildings are European.

I reckon its this: 380mm Stu M RW61 L/5.4, from a Sturmtiger.

Adapted naval mortar mounted on a tiger chassis (for those that don't know).

Full descriptiopn here: Achtung Panzer

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:35 am
by Hornblower
I'll go with one of those german wober-something or rother rocket things.... excuse the spelling... We really do need a spell check on this thing....

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:18 am
by dday
Something written on the Shell "F XXX" "XXX" Yup, landed somewhere in Germany, it an American 1000 HE lbs Iron cast shell.

Mine 2 cents

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:13 am
by tc464
The 2 closest matches I found to this pic were the 1,000 lb GP Bomb Mk I and the 1,000 lb Target Identification Bomb No. B 2 Mk I. Both are British. Tough picture....sure would like to get a closer view of the nose.

Note to any lurking EOD techs...this is NOT a positive ID [:D]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:35 pm
by 2Stepper
ORIGINAL: tc464

The 2 closest matches I found to this pic were the 1,000 lb GP Bomb Mk I and the 1,000 lb Target Identification Bomb No. B 2 Mk I. Both are British. Tough picture....sure would like to get a closer view of the nose.

Note to any lurking EOD techs...this is NOT a positive ID [:D]

Heh! I used to billet with some EOD grogs and trust me, they'd have fun with this one. Fact considering all the mulling I did over it when I saw it I wish one of them was here. LOL!! They'd have a ball trying to figure it out. THEN go crack open a cold one... [:D]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:43 pm
by Brady
38cm Raketenwerfer 61 L/5.4 Round, it is[:)]


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"I thought that Brady's "special edition" photos were from his other, non-pacific war Name This posts... "

Indead they are, or Images I come across that I think are particulary interesting, if noted as "special edition", they are Not going to be Pacific War related.

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:10 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Measuring my own (average sized) hand from tip of index finger to wrist (about 7"), and comparing to this guys, the shell is about 2x that size = 14" diameter. I am surprised - I was guessing on the 18" size.

Similarly, it is 6.5 x 7" = 45.5" long. Of course, if our demo hand is from a giant or dwarf, it will skew the results.

For those of you who are wondering, the 380 mm. diameter of this (finally identified) beast = 14.96".

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:43 pm
by Brady
Sorta redifines what "Big Bore" is huh:), at least for a Tank or SP, Thier is an incident related in the above link, and elswhear in some books I have of one shell taking out three Shermans at once in a town in early 45.

In the Real Red Mod for Close Combat III I used to have fun with these things as well[:)]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:17 pm
by tc464
Well hell, I was way off on that one. Oh well, I never worked well under pressure anyway [:D]

RE: Name This...(266 Special Edation)

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:23 pm
by khelvan
ORIGINAL: Brady

In the Real Red Mod for Close Combat III I used to have fun with these things as well[:)]

Try using them in Combat Mission (head and shoulders above CC) - you can take out entire companies. Nasty!