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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin



As for the politics, well, let's leave that alone, as carrying on with it will just get this thread locked down.

Imagine that the "enlightened" wanting to do a Hit and Run political rant and then asking the issues be tabled when the rebuttals start in....[8|]

Typical Erwin post, complete with stealthy political screed. Erwin you really should just come out and say that people who serve in the force should be spoonfed your superior morals. You know for such a USMC fanboi you seem to have missed the message of this pic....?



Some people need hated and are very worthy of it. The Japanese were not blessed little angels of multiCultihood and ALL nations drank of the bitter Kool Aid in WW2.....

as to MARKUSS' intonations that America is currently ruled by a Theocratic minded hyper religious US Taliban maybe I'll go to the trouble of posting Jacques Heinz's views on Iraq circa 1998 or Beijing Billy's use of the Middle East as "Operation Hide the Dress" if political rants are now back in vogue in these parts???

Why can't we all just have a nice happy meal and get along?

It's a bit complicated for me, as while I admire the troops in both wars, I hold differing opinions on the causes they fought for in WWII ( it was the right thing to do) and today (I opposed our involvement).

by the way on a lighter note you are a heck of a "ayotollah of rock and rollah" for being a minimum of what 78?

You feel on a personal level that World War 2 was 'the right thing to do", but opposed the current conflict?

No, you support our world war 2 efforts totally as a spectator with NO personal direct risk or involvement. I'll bet if FDR had an "R" by his name you would be all over his "aggressive foreign policy baiting of the Axis" through embargoes and threats. This is akin to the magic that Kerry and others pull whereby Vietnam was "all Nixon's fault". Neat trick as when Johnny was playing "Christmas in Cambodia"(allegedly) LBJ was Prez not Tricky Dick.


War is never a "fun thing" but it is often sadly the "right thing".

Afghanistan is a testament to what we are trying to accomplish in iraq and one day the whole region......

I could make an acidic sarcastic comment on how funny it is for you to have your views based on your rhetoric "gunny" but in the spirit of the Yuletide I'll refrain.

Suffice to say rank political opportunism masquerading as pacifistic morals is as aromatic as the French saying a series of 'oops' killed 60 people in the IC.

ORIGINAL: freeboy

Not "go away", simply that it seems ludicrous that the oil rich nations of the mideast, super duper wealthy hardly lift a finger to help, all the while hating the Isreali's. this is a great area to examine in light of the "anger" topic.. how much grief and strife is produced by those who cannot forgive and work towrds a wholeness of self and community? I simply find the anti Isreal lobby too much to take, not that everythng they do as a country is right imo... it is simply irrational to suggest Isreal must submit to the wishes of terrorist or states who publicly have called for its irradication.

Once again, your argument is basically 'other Arab states have enough money to take care of the entire Palestinian population, so they should do so and leave Israel alone'. The middle east problem is much wider than that.

Additionally, it would be incorrect to state that they haven't 'lifted a finger' to solve the problem. They have, several times, spent enormous amounts of money and effort in trying to solve the problem militarily. Things haven't worked out their way, but accusing them of not trying is unfair.

As to Mexico, remember the wars? If mexico defeated texas, the US would probably not have gone to war to correct the problem150 years ago...

What do you mean by 'correct the problem'? Is that a manifestation of 'Manifest Destiny' or something?

ORIGINAL: .50Kerry
Afghanistan is a testament to what we are trying to accomplish in iraq and one day the whole region......

This here also reeks of 21st century 'Manifest Destiny'....

ORIGINAL: a19999577

ORIGINAL: .50Kerry
Afghanistan is a testament to what we are trying to accomplish in iraq and one day the whole region......

This here also reeks of 21st century 'Manifest Destiny'....

yeah except for the whole "we are not annexing sh** and integrating it to the United States" & "the last time I checked a map Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Persian gulf were not in North America" paradigms it is EXACTLY the same.....

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search? ... %20destiny

This is NOT the "whiteman's burden" where we dress up the subjugation of entire continents as "for their own good". The most likely result for the US will be setting up regimes at the end fo the day that are at best antipathetic. Kind of like modern Germany, France, and South Korea.

"Just another day at the office".

if something "reeks" it needs a bath or the smeller likely does.

Well, ol' Sven is definitely in the Christmas spirit, so he's guaranteeing that Vic will lock it up. I said my piece, and I'm glad some of you others did, too. Sven and I go back a few years on our differences of opinion (and if you remember, we have a few shared opinions, too) . To get it all in the open, his real name is Frank, and mine is Glenn. He's a Republican, I'm a Democrat. It's Christmas Day, and I think a cease fire is in order.
'Nuff said.

Merry Christmas, Frank, to you and your family. We'll continue this discussion another day.

Alrighty kids.......you may continue this thread over at Vinny and Doggie's. That's the place for it.

Locking up.