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RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:35 am
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Tankerace
It could also (if a 12") be from the Arkansas...
Good thought!
OK - here is a picture below of the 12" gun from USS Arkansas. Note the side-closing breech block.
If this thing is about 1 cu ft. of steel, it must weigh close to 700 pounds. Too heavy for a manual lift-up type closure, i think.
So - I am guessing Brady is showing us an 8" gun.

RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:46 am
by Tankerace
based on that.... I am going to guess 12"/50 from an Alaska...
I still think its to big to be an 8 incher, but who knows...
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:43 am
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Tankerace
based on that.... I am going to guess 12"/50 from an Alaska...
I still think its to big to be an 8 incher, but who knows...
Possibly - apparently, the more modern US Naval artillery had a drop down top-hinged breech block that was powered - not manual.
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:49 am
by pompack
14in/50 Mark 6 (I think)
ORIGINAL: Tankerace
US Naval Gun Breach, My guess os 14"/50 Mk 7 as deployed on New Mexico and Tennessee class battleships.
Same gun, same platform, Tankerace and I differ only on what Mark was deployed on Tennesseee
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:06 am
by mbatch729
Actually, US 16/50 Mark 7, if I were a betting man.
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:09 am
by rtrapasso
Well, shoot! Last time i used body measurements, the guy was bigger than me. This time, it appears he is also much taller - or has longer limbs.
Below is a picture of a US 16"/50 (40.6 cm) Mark 7 breech.
I am going to make that my guess!
UPDATE: Double rats! While i was posting my picture, mbatch729 beat me - i didn't see his guess until after i posted mine![:'(]

RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:41 am
by Brady
16/50 MK VII, it is[:)]
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:35 am
by Cap Mandrake
Didn't they wear some kind a protective gear? Were there no embers when they opened the breech after firing? Could be the combustion was total I suppose.
While we're at it, how about some friggin' ear protection?
Also, that gunner needs to get back in line for seconds when they are serving Sh** on a shingle.
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:39 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Didn't they wear some kind a protective gear? Were there no embers when they opened the breech after firing? Could be the combustion was total I suppose.
While we're at it, how about some friggin' ear protection?
Also, that gunner needs to get back in line for seconds when they are serving Sh** on a shingle.
Probably they aren't actually involved in firing the gun right now. If they were, that guy (at least the one in my photo) is going to have a blister down the length of his forearm (in contact with the breech block). They guys in the
Arkansas photo don't seem to be wearing anything special, though.
I have read that anti-flash gear was actually not standard in US ships until after the Falklands war and they analyzed what happened there. I have never been able to verify if this is correct, or if it was voluntarily used by some ships or crew members. It was standard on Commonwealth ships back in WW2.
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:39 pm
by mbatch729
For those interested, my sig picture is the USS Iowa firing a full broadside. And while I worked in the secondary (5") battery world, I did see the main battery stuff a lot.
RE: Name This...(287)
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:25 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: mbatch729
For those interested, my sig picture is the USS Iowa firing a full broadside. And while I worked in the secondary (5") battery world, I did see the main battery stuff a lot.
When did you serve on
Iowa? Can you shed any light on the anti-flash gear question?