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RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:40 pm
by Rendova
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Rendova

It is a Dornier Do-335A-1 Pfeil
Cool plane, It was a twin but a tractor-pusher setup

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/ai ... _do335.htm

The Cockpit must have been translated postwar

How come we cant see any of the front prop blades then? Seems to me we ought to be able to see at least one.

That is bothering me as well, maybe I am wrong...
I remember seeing a a picture of a cockpit of one somewhere else and it looked similar, I feel it is a captured plane, maybe the prop was removed when it was shiped back to the states?[&:]

Edit: Nope, I am wrong, the engines instruments are marked "L" and "R" do it can't be a tractor-pusher

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:14 pm
by Stavka_lite
Possibly a beaufort?

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:30 pm
by panda124c
Some thoughts,
First it's a prop A/C
I see two 'Man Pr' gages but only one 'Cyl Temp' gage and what appears to be a 'EXH TEM' (Exhaust Temp?) and what the heck is a SYNCN gage (syncronize?) and what appear to be two magneto switches, two Oil Temp gages (appear to be labled L and R).
The windshield says it not a fighter looks heavy and shaped wrong no flat panel for gunsight.
The yoke says not a fighter in fact the yoke looks like a pair of handle bars, unless the thing that looks like a yoke is actually the rudder pedals (hummm).
Perhaps a recon A/C.
The gage on the left (may be an add on) looks like it is in english. So a captured A/C.


How many twin engine tandum or single seater bombers/recon, of non Allied origin do you know.

I could be all wrong. (most likey answer) [:D]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:07 pm
by ChezDaJez
Exhaust temp gauges can give an indication whether the engines are running rich or lean.

The SYNCH is for multi-engine aircraft and is designed to keep the engines from operating totally in synch. If they are exactly in synch, they can create harmonic vibrations that will eventually cause structural failure. I would assume as this is a SYNCH gauge, that the pilot must manually adjust the throttles to avoid propeller synchronization.

The Lockheed Electras had several instances where the tails fell off in flight in the 50's. The cause was eventually traced to the propellers creating harmonic vibrations which tore the airplane apart.

The P-3 Orion (Navy derivative of the Lockheed Electra) has a prop synchrophaser that ensures all propellors operate at slighlty different RPM settings.

Chez

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:17 pm
by Capt Cliff
Martin 167-F3 or XA-22, French "Glenn," British "Maryland" Attack Bomber....??

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:23 pm
by Subchaser
hint!

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RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:39 pm
by rtrapasso
LOL!

I just thought i'd try to get another hint by seeing what your uploaded file name was - "no_more_hints.jpg"!

Very clever[:'(][:D]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:51 pm
by Subchaser
ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

LOL!

I just thought i'd try to get another hint by seeing what your uploaded file name was - "no_more_hints.jpg"!

Very clever[:'(][:D]

There is always someone who goes that way… [:-]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:58 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Right..so we need a twin-engine (early war or pre-war) aircraft or western (not Japanese) manufacture with a thin fuselage, solo or tandem pilot seating arrangement, no nose cannons, a segmented, heavy windscreen with crappy visibility, and a ventral window on the nose so the pilot doesnt plow the thing into the runway when he is trying to land the beast.

This is no prototype...the paint is all worn off. I'm not even sure about the captured theory...perhaps the instrument lettering was just done with kindergarten crayons.

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:00 pm
by Cap Mandrake
I dont know what that is outisde the left side of the cockpit in Subchaser's pic. It looks like a tool shed that his been hit by a typhoon, but might be some kind of engine cowling being worked on. It looks like polished aluminum

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:12 pm
by DeepSix
I don't know what plane it is, but I'd be willing to bet that's not the original instrument panel. Lots of hand written/painted lables (Idle/Cutoff); on the left (at 9:00) is what looks like an added gauge, and along the top center are empty rivet/screw holes and a pair of "ghosts" in the paint.

[Edit: Cockpit canopy looks a little like a Judy....]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:36 pm
by Subchaser
[X(] I’ve just noticed… correct answer was already given…

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:43 pm
by jcjordan
I may be way offbase here but what about that prewar design by the US, something like Aircuda that had gun emplacements in the engine nacelles? From Subs pic it looks to have an exit door just in front of the control stick at the pilot's feet. (Just a VWAG from me)

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:49 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Subchaser

[X(] I’ve just noticed… correct answer was already given…


Yes..Janushm got it...its the Ki-46 Dinah


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RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:53 pm
by Cap Mandrake
The dash (of the recon version)...with Engrish numerals on the instruments [;)]


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RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:14 am
by TheElf
90% certain it is not a Dinah. The Recce version or the KAI. Glass panes do not match up for either.

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:24 am
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: TheElf

90% certain it is not a Dinah. The Recce version or the KAI. Glass panes do not match up for either.

It is not the Recce version of course...but look at the instrument panel, yoke and rudder pedals...it is a complete clone.

Now look at the windscreen panels on the Ki-46 II (Dinah)


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Look at the missing paint and screw holes on the top of the dash in Brady's pic...now look at the round instrument mounted on the top of the dash in the pic above showing the dash of the recon version. The only thing missing is the mechainc's DNA from his scraped knuckles [:)]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:43 am
by Brady
Ki-46, it is[:)]


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no_more_hints.jpg.......lol[:)]

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:22 am
by janushm
WUAAAAHHHHHHHH im king of the world!

RE: Name This...(314)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:09 pm
by grossmetzger
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found a good cockpitview of a ki46 III
looks real close

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