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Murx is correct. I commanded Armored units Platoon thru Company in Germany from 78 thru
86. The training was 1. Button-Up 2.Mask 3. Move Out!
As an ROTC cadet at UCLA in the mid seventies I had an instructor who had his M48 take a 152HE hit on the front slope. The crew survived but they were all concussed and were bleeding from the nose and ears. It could have been worse, they could have been infantry!

Explosions outside the tank can be deadly even if they don't actually damage the tank itself.

During the Winter War when Soviets started their massive attack to breach the Mannerheim-line, they used ALOT of guns to support the attack (If I remember correctly, it was the biggest artillery bombardment the world had seen up untill that point). When they managed to breach The Line, they noticed that some of the biggest bunkers were undamaged, but the soldiers inside were dead. The reason was that those bunkers got pounded for hours by some VERY big guns. They didn't damage the bunkers, but the noise and the shockwaves were bad enough to kill the occupants.

Clink and Clank on ur tank and u dont even dont know when a direct hit is going to come. U are basically in a metal coffin and waiting for a direct hit into ur open hatch...isnt that suppression. Do u think u are going to see what is out there or pray it is not going to hit into ur hatch????

If u are in a trench or pill box, a heavy artillery of 152 or 150 or even 203 didnt even need to get a direct hit, the pressure from the explosion is enough to burst ur lung and u die........

Fighting in Built Up Area or FIBUA, we use alot of grenades, in fact, we use one nearly every room, the explosion need not to kill u but it sure deaf u.....u will bleed from ur ear.....and the shock is enough to let me go in and kill u....

81 motar are still used up todate....do u know why.....it is not that it kill accurate and kill alot but it sure an infantry heavy artillery.....Panther is a good tank on its frontal but nearly every tank used in the war is weak on its top except some heavies like the tiger which is a different story...

When u are bombard and u are in a tank....how do u know it is a small artillery that hitting u.....every shell that near miss u sound so loud and huge....

Originally posted by Belisarius:


Splitting hairs.

I KNOW it's a difference between the two. I was just making a comparison to explain my point. Sheesh.

Sorry. I'll settle down.