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Hi, I have updated my graphics driver and tried increasing mouse speed
in control panel but it makes no difference in game.
I downloaded the fraps software. The frame rate is around 39. My FX 5200
is 128 mb.

The mouse speed just seems about 25% slower than it should ideally be
(actually in the menus as well as the game). Sluggish.

The scrolling of the map is fine but even when I am looking at a static
screen the mouse movement is too slow.

Maybe this is not a performance issue?
What determines the speed of the cursor in a game?

Maybe it has just been set too low for my liking.
I assume that is why some games make mouse cursor speed definable by the user.
It's still playable - but this detracts a lot from my enjoyment of the game.

ORIGINAL: hobbes
The frame rate is around 39. My FX 5200
is 128 mb.

The mouse speed just seems about 25% slower than it should ideally be
(actually in the menus as well as the game). Sluggish.

Hobbes,

With the frame rate that you are currently seeing, the mouse should be responding normally. You are reporting that the mouse speed is the same across menus and in-game -- and this is what I would expect under your circumstances. (Where frame rate is not an issue.)

As far as mouse speed is concerned, DirectInput reports the amount the mouse has moved. And, I believe that it uses the sensitivity of the mouse based on your Windows settings. If a game were to provide additional sensitivity settings, they could just speed up or slow down the number provided by DirectInput. That is not something that we have implemented with the game, but it is certainly a feature that we could look into for future releases.

Deride

It would be great if you could speed it up - but the Windows setting does not seem to make any difference.

Thanks, Chris

Is there a link here perhaps with the make of mouse or the mouse software thats actually being used with the problem ones. Im using microsoft mouse with intellimouse software ver 4.10, running with no problems.

Budge

Running into same problem with my MS mouse. I starts out fine, but quickly resorts to a rather annoying delay. Hope this gets some attention and soon[X(]

When you say it starts out fine, is that on the map or only on the main game menu screen?

Regards,

- Erik

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

When you say it starts out fine, is that on the map or only on the main game menu screen?

Regards,

- Erik

Its fine on the main menu, but shortly after I get on the map it starts its stall. So my mouse does not start stalling immediately, but shortly into the game - i.e., one or two unit moves.

Have you already tried the other recommendations regarding running in the lowest available resolution, turning off shadows, etc.? Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

I just started Rome Total War and I noticed the same sort of lag in the strategic screen only (In fact it is even worse and I have all the graphic options set to the minimal possible)

I looked at the support forum and saw the note below which looked promising.
However after trying the 76.10 driver I don't notice any improvement. I might try the 75.90 sometime in the next few days - if anyone has any sucess please let me know.
(How can I look and see what version of the driver I have installed?)

Do all the people having lag problems have Nvidia cards?
Cheers, Chris


ROME TOTAL WAR FORUM NOTE :-
Mouse lag and Nvidia Cards ????

Maybe the common factor in the mouse lag issue is the Geforce 4 graphics
card which I have or maybe Nvidia cards in general?

Does anyone have the mouse lag problem who DOESN'T have an Nvidia card?

Steve
Jimus
Registered User
Posts: 228
(2/10/05 4:52 pm)
Re: Mouse lag and Nvidia Cards ????

Nope. It's always just been with nVidia cards.. It was supposed to be fixed
in the patch.. but...

-Jimus-
EGGO
Registered User
Posts: 2
(2/24/05 2:47 am)
Re: Mouse lag and Nvidia Cards ????

Try installing the latest Nvidia beta drivers 75.90. They got rid of my
mouse lag and now the campaign map is smooth as silk
tullos
Registered User
Posts: 1
(3/5/05 11:59 pm)
Re: good tip for mouse lag

I was also getting bad mouse lag and scrolling problems with beta 71.84 and
was going to roll back to 66.93 but seeing tip on 75.90 installed modified
driver for 5700 fx card and now the game races....thanks for the tip

link to Alliance of Overclocking Arts site for modified driver

http://files.aoaforums.com/index.php?dir=138

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Have you already tried the other recommendations regarding running in the lowest available resolution, turning off shadows, etc.? Thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

Yes I have with no results - except no more shadows. Hope this can be solved - game's great

Hobbes,

That's quite interesting, let me know if you find anything further that has results in TS:JC. I could definitely believe this being a driver issue, but we're not ruling anything out.

Regards,

- Erik

I found where to verify what driver I have installed and it is the correct one (76.10). I'm surprised it didn't at least make a difference to RTW as the problem seems identical. I'll try with the 75.90 driver in the next day or two.

Cheers, Chris

Make sure you uninstall drivers fully between version changes too. Google "DriverCleaner Pro" for a good utility to run between driver installations to avoid other possible issues.

Regards,

- Erik

I tried to install 75.90 but it doesn't seem to install correctly so I went back to the old version.

I think I will put the game on hold although I'm not sure what the situation is when I get a new PC - will I be able to download it again free of charge after entering the serial number?

Chris

Hobbes,

What kind of installation problem did it give you?

Just back up your existing download onto CD and you're all set if you want to transfer it to a new computer later on.

Regards,

- Erik

Thanks Erik. The download seems confusing to quite a few. Some say you can download any time in 30 days some 90 days - yet I can't see this written anywhere. All the downloads I have made are still showing as available for download - even ones I made 5 or 6 months ago such as Alexander. Would I have to pay again if I was to say download Alexander again? If so with a new PC on the horizon and 5 games I have downloaded but yet to really play It looks as though download could have been a really bad choice for me. I just assumed I would be able to re-download at any time.

Then there is something about a 2 year download insurance - All very confusing!
If I make a CD copy I would have to pay another $9.99? As there is a button saying this on the download page. In that case I may as well have got it on CD in the first place.

The 76.10 driver installation comes up with a Nvidia screen asking how I want the display to be set but when I try to install 75.90 all I get is a screen asking me if I want to search the net for some software.

Cheers, Chris

Keep in mind, anytime you pay for anything you will be asked for payment information and then asked to confirm payment. There are no "stealth charges", we wound never allow that.

As to your rights per our agreement - if you downloaded the game, you can back it up to CD, no problem at all. You can keep a backup copy on another computer. You can have it on say both your laptop and your desktop as long as you are the only player and don't use both at once.

The download period is more than 30 days in effect. DR controls this and the way they guarantee availability past 30 days (to re-download, for free) is this "Download Insurance" which guarantees two years of access to your download should you not back it up and lose it due to some computer disaster. Personally, I think having a backup copy is cheaper so I would always do it that way. Plus, for the same price you could order the game on demand and have a profesionally printed boxed copy if you prefer.

Your description of the 75.90 installation does concern me a bit - did you download straight from the www.nvidia.com site? I've only seen issues when previous drivers are nor removed or when there is a system issue or incompatibility between the driver installer and background programs (like anti-virus scanners).

Regards,

- Erik

Thanks Erik, can I just make a copy of all the files and directory structure as it is on my hard disk or can I only save the downloaded installation exe (as somebody suggested in another thread? I don't think I kept those).

The drivers I'm using are beta versions as the RTW mouse lag seemed to be caused by a problem with the current NVIDIA driver. I got them from a non NVIDIA site mentioned in the RTW thread.

Cheers, Chris

P.S. I'm still confused as to what the 'burn your own CD' $9.99 button is for on the DR
download site - but I'll try and make a copy of JS at the weekend.

Hello,

Koisworks has been working hard on an update to improve performance for those of you suffering from lag issues and also to add a variety of other enhancements. We are interested in getting this beta update out to as many of you as possible who are willing to give us some feedback this weekend on whether it resolves your performance issues or not. This will give you new options for texture quality that allowed me in testing here to get Julius Caesar running lightning-fast on a 32Mb GeForce 2MX video card on a 800MHz processor.

Please e-mail me at erikr@matrixgames.com and I will e-mail the update to you. Post in the support forum with your feedback on whether the update helps your performance and whether you experience any problems with it. Thanks!

Regards,

- Erik

Downloaded as suggested by Erik, at first I noted that the mouse was smooth and without delay through the first turn, but then started its old lagging behavior.

However, when I tried to play through the problem, the mouse lagging would stop for a bit [one or two units being moved, etc.] and then start the lagging again. This happened on several occassions during one game. Not sure what this all means, but a good game made slower.