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RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:21 pm
by Sharkosaurus rex
Sounds like some passengers on the train spotted him acting suspiciously.
And the passengers told the station officers.

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:28 pm
by Sharkosaurus rex
Time out.

When I logged on tonight, I saw that some of the thread from here were moved to the General Discussion Site. So I went there to see if anything extra was added that was worth reading. While there I also read: If World War II had been an on-line Real Time Strategy game. This is SO funny. I you haven't read i, go up there now and have a good laugh.

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:44 pm
by Speedysteve
Just read it Sharko. Fantastic. Must read all [:D]

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:00 pm
by RUPD3658
CNN said that he was wearing a long jacket. Sort of draws attention in this kind of heat.

Nice to see that some Bobbys do have guns and are willing to use them. I remember the old Robin Williams routine where he was describing how hard it must be to be a Bobby "Stop! ......or I will say stop again!"

As a cop in the US I can't imagine doing my job unarmed. Only had to use my weapon once in 16 years but would have had a rough time not getting my butt kicked without it there as a deterent.

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:02 pm
by Raverdave
ORIGINAL: RUPD3658



As a cop in the US I can't imagine doing my job unarmed. Only had to use my weapon once in 16 years but would have had a rough time not getting my butt kicked without it there as a deterent.


So how is Tony Soprano going??????[;)]

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:44 pm
by Mark VII
Probably an MP-5, so the officer had plenty to spare in case those five rounds did not properly relax the suspect.

EDIT: Correction...After reading the article that Speedy found, they say if was a semi-auto pistol. Either way the officer/officers would of had plenty of spare magazines and would not be worrying about running out of bullets. I'm sure they fired till the suspect stopped resisting. Would think there was an "urgency" involved considering what has happened over the last two weeks and this guy had wires hanging out of his clothes.
ORIGINAL: Sharkosaurus rex

Aaaarrrgggghhhh. You can't shoot me! You're an English policeperson.
bang
bang
bang
bang
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better save the last one!

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:48 pm
by Erik Rutins
Please keep these discussions on the general discussion forum, thanks.

Regards,

- Erik

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:31 pm
by Iridium
"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him," he said.


Oddly enough what this eye witness says doesn't jive with the other reports...[:'(]

You could get the impression that they purposely killed him from just this line.

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:48 pm
by IronDuke_slith

A couple of things.

Firstly, it appears the person in question was most likely being watched, as he was suspected of involvement in the terror ring that made the attacks on thursday. He was pursued by three Officers apparently, and it does appear he was caught and shot five times, as he was suspected of carrying explosives. Some eye witnesses have remarked on the size of his coat, others have reported wires in his belt.

We do have armed police in this country. The unit is called SO19, although diplomatic and royal protection officers will also carry weapons.

However, this sort of shooting marks a radical departure for the British Police force. There have been suggestions these Officers were something more than ordinary Policemen. There have been new guidelines recently issued which change the rules of engagement where Officers think a suspect has explosives on him, and intends to blow himself and others up. They seem to have been following these and shooting to kill, but there seems to have been absolutely no hesitation, which may indeed indicate these men were more than just plain clothes detectives.

Regards,
IronDuke

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:51 pm
by IronDuke_slith
ORIGINAL: Iridium
"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him," he said.


Oddly enough what this eye witness says doesn't jive with the other reports...[:'(]

You could get the impression that they purposely killed him from just this line.

I think this is the current understanding of what happened (the full Police version is not yet out, I think) but it does seem he was shot in this manner, because he was believed to be carrying explosives and be intent on setting them off. The Officers cornered him on the train and shot him to prevent any explosion.

IronDuke

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:06 am
by DuckofTindalos
Both the BBC and Sky News are apparently reporting that the man shot at Stockwell Station had no connection to the terror attacks. We'll see what happens...

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:11 am
by Home40
tap tap tap... testing

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:35 am
by Home40
An interesting day, all told.

Most interesting was the young Western Oriental Gentleman's protracted condemnation (to camera - Sky News) of these absobloodylootly NOT Muslim, Islamic terrorists.

It was very impressive (had me going) how he insisted that these were anti everything Islam stands for, how people like that were being wrongly associated with people like him in the minds of others and that these people must be the work this or that or the other or possibly the guess whos.

So, no organic connection to be assumed between mainstream and extreme Islamic interests. It was the guess whos.

Guess what, no guess again... .

Ahh, what we are capable of when we feel sorry for ourselves. And the mainstream feel victimised by wrongheaded backlash and so... .

Shot a bomb-thrower [yawn]

h40

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:26 am
by Zap
I should think that we are a big enough group to warrant our own "General Discussion" section within WiTP. I HATE going out and then back into this area.

Why don't you like it in here? There are some good discussions at times.

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:42 pm
by 2gaulle
when policeMan could shoot 5 times like that with so few reaction, it's the first steep to dictature

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:29 pm
by Qwerty
ORIGINAL: Terminus

Both the BBC and Sky News are apparently reporting that the man shot at Stockwell Station had no connection to the terror attacks. We'll see what happens...

Link

This man had no connections with the bombings accordding to the BBC. As Terminus already stated

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:43 am
by Raverdave
ORIGINAL: Zap
I should think that we are a big enough group to warrant our own "General Discussion" section within WiTP. I HATE going out and then back into this area.

Why don't you like it in here? There are some good discussions at times.


Simple........56K dial-up. It's even a pain just loading one page.[:(]

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:36 am
by Home40
'Looks like apologies are in order. A right muck up. I hope the chap was given a proper chance to 'surrender' himself because the grounds for his shooting are just too vague.

This has amplified the level of terror in London.

Why did he run? Did he think he'd be better off legging it having heard officers talking about shooting him to death???

Gibralta good Stockwell bad.

h40

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:23 pm
by rtrapasso
ORIGINAL: Home40

'Looks like apologies are in order. A right muck up. I hope the chap was given a proper chance to 'surrender' himself because the grounds for his shooting are just too vague.

This has amplified the level of terror in London.

Why did he run? Did he think he'd be better off legging it having heard officers talking about shooting him to death???

Gibralta good Stockwell bad.

h40
The guy who shot him was reportedly in plain clothes. Heck, if some random guy pulled out a gun and started yelling and chasing ME, i'd run!!


BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
"Surrender NOW! Oooops..."

Given the latest round of revelations, it sounds like the penalty for wearing a long coat in summer is now death. The Fashion Police are really getting some teeth now!!

RE: NEWS FLASH !!!!

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:32 am
by Rainerle
ORIGINAL: Home40


Why did he run?

h40

Maybe he wanted to catch the metro ??