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Charles_22
Don't have access to OOB's, etc right now, but it does make you wonder <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

As far as bottom armor being universal, it seems like AFV's with heavier armor survive mine hits much better, but don't have any empirical evidence of that. It could be random, and I really don't know if the armor value is factored into mine damage.

When I play against the AI, I often try to arrange a reverse slope defense, even on advance missions. When the enemy tanks crest the hilltop and enter the slope hex, .50 cals will open any tank's bottom armor like a sardine can. I have to agree that the frequency and effectiveness seems way too high, even factoring in AP ammo for the aamg's.

Maybe this will be addressed in rev 7. If not then maybe CA.

Originally posted by Charles_22:
Easy8: That's one thing that though I run into it very few times, I dislike quite a bit, though it's an interestiung attempt to add another place to hit and therefore add another armor rating for the vehicle. I don't think there's any way we can see those ratings for individual tanks is there? Are the bottom ratings universal to ALL AFVs? I ask this because I've browsed through by no means an exhaustive set of RL bottom ratings on AFVs, and often it's at the same rating as the top armor, but I wonder if that rating is firstly universal, and secondly if it's something artifically low like 10mm.

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I seem to recall a post back a couple of months ago where bottom armor was mentioned as 1/3 of the side armor, so the thicker the side, the thicker the bottom.
thanks, John.

1/3 of the side? Seems I heard such a thing as well, which, in some cases, is a fairly reliable generalization. I doubt bottom armor plays a part in minefield survival, though it should, because tanks were taking mine hits before the addition of bottom armor to the program. I suppose a Maus would have around 70mm of bottom armor. I wonder if that would make it impervious program-wise to mines (that's if we assume bottom armor is playing a part) other than the distinct possibility of immobilizations due to track hits?

Originally posted by Charles_22:
1/3 of the side? Seems I heard such a thing as well, which, in some cases, is a fairly reliable generalization. I doubt bottom armor plays a part in minefield survival, though it should, because tanks were taking mine hits before the addition of bottom armor to the program. I suppose a Maus would have around 70mm of bottom armor. I wonder if that would make it impervious program-wise to mines (that's if we assume bottom armor is playing a part) other than the distinct possibility of immobilizations due to track hits?

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Survivability is the key in surviving mines. With the big tanks with a 6 survivability rating you stand a chance against mines. Those with a 1 or 2 die every time.
thanks, John.