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RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:25 pm
by Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
Depends, what kind of Jarhead are you ?
0311, Plt Sgt, in a time, far, far away, and long ago too !!!!
HARD_Sarge
0311...0331...it doesn't make a difference...so long as you're a Grunt...you're good to go...There are bound to be some REMF pogues lurking nearby though...

RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:46 pm
by Hard Sarge
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:48 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
Depends, what kind of Jarhead are you ?
0311, Plt Sgt, in a time, far, far away, and long ago too !!!!
HARD_Sarge
0311...0331...it doesn't make a difference...so long as you're a Grunt...you're good to go...There are bound to be some REMF pogues lurking nearby though...
31 ? ahh, you had it easy, but, A Marine is a Marine
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:45 pm
by Jarhead0331
uhhh...last time I checked a 240Golf was a lot more of a bitch to haul around than an M16...
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:40 am
by Hard Sarge
well, when I was in, guess who had to carry them from boys ?
the grunts did the hauling
ahhh,remember one time, I had to carry two of them
but then, being a 6 footer when the norm was 5-5,5-7 had its draw backs
240, that the Maw right ? we didn't have that, back in my day, we were just coming out of the black powder ages when I was in
ahhhh
what was nice was the M-79, just when it was my job to carry it, we changed to the M-203, man what a pig that was, Army didn't want em anymore and we couldn't sell them overseas, so the Marines got them
M-16s were nice in training, but, give me a M-14
but just ragging, you know, Old Corps and all
HARD_Sarge
A 1/8 2nd Marine Div, 1973-77
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:29 am
by ian77
Could have been worse Hard Sarge, you might have had an M198 to lug........
Ian
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:51 am
by ian77
I seem to recall that even a standard HE round weighed in at 100lbs!!
I think it was after playing some portability games with us in Canada that the USMC started to push for the M777A1... our light 105's being too "lite" for the corps..
Ian
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:16 am
by Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
well, when I was in, guess who had to carry them from boys ?
the grunts did the hauling
ahhh,remember one time, I had to carry two of them
but then, being a 6 footer when the norm was 5-5,5-7 had its draw backs
240, that the Maw right ? we didn't have that, back in my day, we were just coming out of the black powder ages when I was in
ahhhh
what was nice was the M-79, just when it was my job to carry it, we changed to the M-203, man what a pig that was, Army didn't want em anymore and we couldn't sell them overseas, so the Marines got them
M-16s were nice in training, but, give me a M-14
but just ragging, you know, Old Corps and all
HARD_Sarge
A 1/8 2nd Marine Div, 1973-77
240 Golf is not a MAW...its a GPMG...0331 = machine gunner...0354 = anti-tank gunner, etc etc
You call '73 to '77 Old Corps? thats funny...China Marines...1930s...thats Old Corps...in any event, the mid to late 70s were good years to serve, wouldn't ya say?
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:46 am
by Hard Sarge
ahh, just remember to a Marine, if they are dated March of 73 and you are april 73, they are Old Corps
I thought the 240 was the 223 GPMG they are using now ? (rusty on some of the newer stuff)
which I thought that was called the MAW (like I said, I am much better anymore on old stuff then on new stuff)
LOL I remember I was picked to join the 60 mikemike team when it was decided to bring it back into action, I was the only one big enough to carry the thing, we went over seas, and it was decided to wait till the float was over before we went back to making it full TO@E
get back and they decide, since it is a Crew weapon it should go to Weapons Plt, and of course, then they decide, that it is too heavy to carry, so the 60 Mikemike team got a track all there own, or a jeep, or they did not bring it to the field
dang, that bugger was heavy too
HARD_Sarge
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:05 pm
by Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
ahh, just remember to a Marine, if they are dated March of 73 and you are april 73, they are Old Corps
I thought the 240 was the 223 GPMG they are using now ? (rusty on some of the newer stuff)
which I thought that was called the MAW (like I said, I am much better anymore on old stuff then on new stuff)
LOL I remember I was picked to join the 60 mikemike team when it was decided to bring it back into action, I was the only one big enough to carry the thing, we went over seas, and it was decided to wait till the float was over before we went back to making it full TO@E
get back and they decide, since it is a Crew weapon it should go to Weapons Plt, and of course, then they decide, that it is too heavy to carry, so the 60 Mikemike team got a track all there own, or a jeep, or they did not bring it to the field
dang, that bugger was heavy too
HARD_Sarge
No sweat...the .223 squad automatic weapon thats standard today is the M249 SAW...the M240G (240Golf) is a medium machinegun chambered in 7.62...It replaced the M60...
Come on...carrying crew served weapons ain't that bad...with a mortar, one guy carries the plate, one guy carries the tube, and everyone lends a helping hand with the ammo...
I'm 6'3" and at the time I was in, weighed about 225/230 (these days, not as lean, not as mean, but still a Marine). Anyway, I know what you mean when you say the big guys get screwed when it comes to carrying the heavy loads...like ALICE, 782 gear and MOPP gear isn't bad enough, huh?
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:10 pm
by Hard Sarge
LOL
well, I was going to get to that part
the manuel for the 60 mm says, it comes in 3 easy carry parts (4 if you count the sight) base plate, barrel, and bypod, of course the brains, figured out, why break it down, when you could carry the whole thing at one time (if you got someone who looks like a mule)
overall, think it was still only 45 pounts, but, there is no easy way to carry it, toss it on your shoulder and the barrel eats into your shoulder, carry it in your arms and no more arms, at least we never went very far with it, or would of had to try some straps
ahh okay, the 249 is what I was thinking, hmm have to look up the 240G, didn't know they replaced the M-60
that was a good MG, only they slowed the ROF down too much
best part of being a 6 foot Marine was playing football on the weekends !!!!!! used to run for 6-7 TDs a game, and I run like a Truck,
HARD_Sarge
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:02 pm
by Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
best part of being a 6 foot Marine was playing football on the weekends !!!!!! used to run for 6-7 TDs a game, and I run like a Truck,
HARD_Sarge
Ever play football in full MOPP gear?
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:41 pm
by Hard Sarge
MOPP ? may be newer stuff then we used (got to remember, we still had some stuff from WWII)
LOL I had a Haversack from 42, and a Canteen cup from 43, while over seas we found some C-rats from 45 and 52
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:17 pm
by ian77
After the S. Atlantic, we were a little "low" on the supply front ... we did not find but were issued with 1960's version of C rations, I seem to remember that the "bacon roll" was better than the 1980's issue, but the chocolate was a bit too white for my taste! Worst of all, no vesta curries!!
Ian
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:51 pm
by Hard Sarge
ever have C-rats from Italy ?
they come with there own little wine bottle, lol, and it is not that little either !
now, that was a fun football game, they didn't get the idea of blocking, or ducking, or getting out of your way, man did they get hurt
HARD_Sarge
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:10 pm
by Oleg Mastruko
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
LOL
well, I was going to get to that part
the manuel for the 60 mm says, it comes in 3 easy carry parts (4 if you count the sight) base plate, barrel, and bypod, of course the brains, figured out, why break it down, when you could carry the whole thing at one time (if you got someone who looks like a mule)
overall, think it was still only 45 pounts, but, there is no easy way to carry it, toss it on your shoulder and the barrel eats into your shoulder, carry it in your arms and no more arms, at least we never went very far with it, or would of had to try some straps
ahh okay, the 249 is what I was thinking, hmm have to look up the 240G, didn't know they replaced the M-60
that was a good MG, only they slowed the ROF down too much
I went directly from board to thread page 2 and thought you were describing some napoleonic light artillery piece [:D]
O.
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:26 pm
by Zap
Never served in the military so its hard to follow your posts. But once you started talking food now thats something I can follow

C-rations sound good to me . Whens dinner time?
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:07 am
by Jarhead0331
ORIGINAL: Zap
Never served in the military so its hard to follow your posts. But once you started talking food now thats something I can follow

C-rations sound good to me . Whens dinner time?
You can't get 'c-rations' anymore...but you can get 'MREs'...and don't kid yourself...they suck...but they do come with lots of little goodies...chocolate, cookies, crackers, etc. etc....
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:40 pm
by Hard Sarge
dont forget the TP, always got to come with TP
of course, since most of it was treated, so you didn't need it, wonder why they added it
yea, we sort of got OT on this one
HARD_Sarge
RE: I'm so on the edge here...
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:43 pm
by carnifex
MOPP?
MOPP = Mission Oriented Protective Posture
i think mopp level one is just the mask with the hood, level 2 includes the nasty rubberized suit, and level 3 includes the rubber booties and the awful thick rubber gloves whose fingers barely fit into the trigger guard ( i think - it's been 15 years)