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If you that support Rule 13.7.6 Surrender the only condition to end the chits. Then why put it in the rules at all?

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Rule 13.7.6 Surrender

During any peace step, you can surrender a home country of a major power that controls less than half the printed factory stacks in the home country. You can surrender a home country with no printed factories if there is an enemy land unit there.

Treat the surrender of a home country as a Complete Conquest of the major power if it doesn’t control any aligned minors. Otherwise it is incompletely conquered.
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4 & 12 China would have to quit the game.
11& 12 The USA would have to quit the game. This would make the rule meaningless!
16 & 33 The Commonwealth would have to quit the game.
33 France would have to quit the game.

And the Netherlands would be so important to the USA (who ovelooked their conquest by Germany in WWII) that it is now worried about having to fight a war with Japan.

ORIGINAL: Mziln

If you that support Rule 13.7.6 Surrender the only condition to end the chits. Then why put it in the rules at all?

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Rule 13.7.6 Surrender

During any peace step, you can surrender a home country of a major power that controls less than half the printed factory stacks in the home country. You can surrender a home country with no printed factories if there is an enemy land unit there.

Treat the surrender of a home country as a Complete Conquest of the major power if it doesn’t control any aligned minors. Otherwise it is incompletely conquered.
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4 & 12 China would have to quit the game.

True, but the main reason you surrender as China is because you've already been reduced to just Kunming, and you want to get some USE, and maybe leave Japan Inactive (and screw them out of their reserves)

11& 12 The USA would have to quit the game. This would make the rule meaningless!

?? Sure the US never surrenders, but the point of note 3 is that the US gets an extra chit every turn, hastening their entry into the war against the remaining Axis power.

16 & 33 The Commonwealth would have to quit the game.

Why? The CW will still control several other home countries. And there's really not much of a reason to ever surrender as the CW.

33 France would have to quit the game.

France will control a number of home countries, so it will be incomplete conquest. You'll occasionally want to surrender France, for reasons such as the Axis taking all the ports but not one factory hex. Since they don't cooperate with the CW, the French fleet would be permanently out of supply.

And the Netherlands would be so important to the USA (who ovelooked their conquest by Germany in WWII) that it is now worried about having to fight a war with Japan.

Ok, lets look at how the USA reacts to a Japaneese invasion of Mexico (a gross breach of the Monroe Doctrine).

USA entry action:

20. Axis declares war on:
.....(If Japan declares war place an entry marker in the Japan pool otherwise place the
.....entry marker in the Germany/Italy pool. This is rolled once per neutral country)
.....Poland, Spain, Turkey, or any American country (12)
.....Belgium, Finland, Rumania, Sweden or Switzerland (8)
.....Any other minor country (3)

I would rather do Panama instead but its a little far for Option 25: SCS Transport.

Option 25: SCS Transport: You can transport 1 non-motorized infantry class division on each SCS.

Note: look at BB Kongo and BB Kirishima.

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[:D] This one is a laugh [:D]

4. China conquered (Ja) 3

If China looses 4 printed factories (China only starts with 8) and takes a Incomplete Conquest. China would cause this USA entry action to occur. China and Japan would be at peace.

If China looses 4 printed factories (China only starts with 8) and takes a Incomplete Conquest. China would cause this USA entry action to occur. China and Japan would be at peace. if Japan wants to contine a war in China, it would have to declare war against China again.

Yes there is a hole in the rules. There is no cost for Japan to declare war on China.

I seem to remember (I do not have the rules handy) that if a country you are at war with become incompletely conquered, you are still at war with it.
Only if it is completely conquered is there peace thereafter.

Correct my mistake. [:(]