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RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:16 pm
by Nikademus
Did anyone mention retro-fitting the BTR feature of being able to manipulate the tabled data by columns?

I'd also like to see Speedy's house added to the BoB map as a legitimate target. [:D]

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:26 pm
by Hard Sarge
Hi Niki
that is on my list of things I want to add

getting the interface closer to BTR would be nice also


RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:39 pm
by palmdogg
MULTIPLAYER, MULTIPLAYER, MULTIPLAYER! -- Because there is no prey as sweet as the most dangerous game! :)

Seriously, I thought the original was pretty good as is. Maybe also some night bombing (I doubt for moral reasons that the game could try and accurately simulate the Blitz) or a pilot roster similar to Uncommon Valour, but multiplayer would really be all the Matrix version would need to kick some behind.

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:06 pm
by wernerpruckner
hi palmdogg,

BoB is a quite good PBEM game as long as there are some houserules
Germans are able to make a Blitz ( use the pathfinders (KG100) as leading units and than they are able to fly nightmissions)

Werner

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:03 pm
by HMSWarspite
ORIGINAL: palmdogg

MULTIPLAYER, MULTIPLAYER, MULTIPLAYER! -- Because there is no prey as sweet as the most dangerous game! :)

Seriously, I thought the original was pretty good as is. Maybe also some night bombing (I doubt for moral reasons that the game could try and accurately simulate the Blitz) or a pilot roster similar to Uncommon Valour..

but it's OK to do Germany 1943-45?[&:]

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:55 am
by palmdogg
Whoops. My apologies. For some reason I was thinking about Rowan's "Battle of Britain".

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:35 am
by Speedysteve
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Hi Niki
that is on my list of things I want to add

getting the interface closer to BTR would be nice also


HS - You mean my flat in Reading is going to be on the map so Nik can bomb it? [X(][:-][;)]

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:37 pm
by otisabuser2
That's OK Palmdog.

So if this game has got Multiplayer and the Blitz features you want, are you interested in trying it ?

regards Otisabuser

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:37 pm
by palmdogg
ooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah!

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:41 am
by otisabuser2
Oh yes, not my idea but remembered from the Ezboard BTR forums....

18) include Italian Airforce ?

If included, would it be used by the Axis player ?

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:53 pm
by Hard Sarge
hmmm ?
well if it was, who would you want to use it ?

LOL, then again, would they want to use it

the G-50's might hold there own, but the CR-42's would be owned, and I do not think they had there better bombers in that group sent up north

but to be honest, they were there, so if we can we should add them

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:05 pm
by otisabuser2
but to be honest, they were there, so if we can we should add them

OK.

But, do we allow Germans to escort the BR20s ?

Are we allowed to mix SM81s with He111 ?

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:56 pm
by Hard Sarge
Well, depends on how it is done I would think

if the It Group is added to one of the commands, it should work just like any other unit in the command

I don't think it would really make much sense to make them a new/single command (I lost the link with all the info on this part of the battle)




RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:21 pm
by otisabuser2
From memory, they came in October/November.

They seem to have raided on their own ( self escorting ), on a small scale. I suppose they could join the Group in Belgium ?

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:26 pm
by Ron Saueracker
Coooooool! Revamping BoB!! One of my favourites. Hmmm....

1) Major issue. We need some way of hard decking the topography above sea level. Hated playing knobs who would send Luftwaffe bombers flying on the deck and hitting hydro dams in the Scottish highlands for example. Would have quite an effect on air combat altitudes.

2) Coastal, Bomber and Fleet Air Arm Commands/Squadrons.

3) Coastal shipping.

Just saw this so give me some time to think. Gonna break out the old girl and get reaquainted and will be right back. Assuming of course I'm not completely in the old mutt house.[8D]

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:47 pm
by otisabuser2
Hi Ron,

On 1, I'm hoping this won't actually happen from now on as all but 3 of those scottish hydro dams were built SINCE the war. We should be looking for a better spread of POWER targets across the UK.

On 2, Yes I think there's scope for some more extra units IF we can include more plane types.

There are two FAA squadrons worthy of inclusion. One in Gladiators one in Fulmars ? ( need to re-check ).

Don't recall any Bomber Command units. Are there any to consider ?

There were three Coastal Command units, attached to FC for shipping escort duties. The issue with these is that they had Blenheim dayfighters. So another aircraft type, but one that I suspect may be of little actual use ?

Tell me what you think.

Point 3, Coastal shipping. The convoys through the Channel we all but finished by game start ( Aug 13th ). The Germans did spend a considerable effort still on shipping recon, minelaying and so on.

Would like to factor in warship flak into naval bases.

regards Otisabsuer

Gladiators at Roborough

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:15 pm
by DBS
The reason why there is that odd half squadron of Glads at Roborough is that that particular airfield was too hemmed in to allow the strip to be extended enough to safely accommodate monoplane fighters. But it was perfectly placed to provide point defence for Devonport/Plymouth. So the Gladiators - which could use it safely - were retained.

Option 1) Rely on players to use house rule limiting to just Glads.

Option 2) Hardcode Roborough as Glad-only. (May be a lot of effort for little gain.)

Option 3) Don't worry about such detail...

That said, not sure that the unit ought not to be expandable to a full squadron. And it should be re-equipable if moved to another field.

May I just say.., recently returned from a tour in the Sandpit and delighted to find that BTR and BOB getting this treatment - and under HS' care! Bravo.

David (And yes still playing BTR occasionally)

RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:25 pm
by Nikademus
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

hmmm ?
well if it was, who would you want to use it ?

LOL, then again, would they want to use it

the G-50's might hold there own, but the CR-42's would be owned, and I do not think they had there better bombers in that group sent up north

but to be honest, they were there, so if we can we should add them

Talk about creating a frustrating day. I have, somewhere some commentary on the Italian "contribution" to the BoB but cannot find it for the life of me [:@] From what i recall, its pretty much what you said....they came, they saw, they got instructed in the facts of life and didn't do too much else....similar to the Ju-87 experience. Not sure they'd be worth the effort of inclusion. Personally i'd rather see efforts concentrated on retrofitting BTR features to BoB's framework and correcting any nasty bugs before exploring minor details. Speedy's "Bingo fuel" bug worries me. Our BTR game would be ruined if he was being such a good sport about it.

Speaking of which....havn't seen a turn in days.....hmmm guess this means Fieldmarchall Speedy must be surrendering!


RE: BoB wish list

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:40 pm
by Hard Sarge
Off hand
will say, we got lots of plans
hassle is if we can get to the them all

what may happen, is we get what we can fix and get what we can get in, in, and then keep working on it afterward

after talking with the programer, I think we can really surprise people with what we hope to do

RE: Gladiators at Roborough

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:14 pm
by von Shagmeister

Hi Dave,

Totally unrelated to topic but good to see you are still alive, amazing how many of the old crew are here.

Regards

von Shagmeister