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Rough Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:39 pm
by toddtreadway
I think making Scotland rough is a good idea Jan.

How about making a ferry between France and London?

RE: Rough Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:01 pm
by Lebatron
A few weeks ago I shared with mcaryf my new ideas for V2.2 of Franco's Alliance and changing the border of England was one of them. I think you guys will like it. The mod has been done for a while I just need to write up a detailed readme that I'm working on at the moment. Perhaps I will finish before work today.

RE: Rough Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:49 pm
by toddtreadway
BTW, the ferry idea would allow air units to move across with a movement of 1, but would not allow ground units to move across unless both sides were controlled.

That brings up another issue, which is that I think ferries should be subject to opfire if there are enemy units in the sea zone the ferry passes through.

RE: German fighters over Britain

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:30 pm
by silodhlehan
I often think germany lost the war because of the lousy range of their early fighters. I think they had 10-15 min over london, it's not far to drive, no real development of drop tanks. I remember reading about a wooden prototype.

They outnumbered the uk in the air by some 2500 to 600 and couldn't bring them to heel. I think it was a good move to limit the range. Or have it like the ship battles where most fighters don't find targets.

RE: German fighters over Britain

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:26 pm
by mcaryf
Hi Jesse (Lebatron)

As I recall your issue with the English borders was to do with the possibility that British fighters and bombers could reach Spain one way and Finland the other rather than the Battle of Britain problem.

I guess there are always likely to be some anomalies when you try to compress the whole world into a finite number of regions. My concern becomes more active when the anomalies start to impact some well known events like the Luftwaffe raiding UK from Norway or the Battle of Britain. Obviously UK did not raid Spain since they were not a belligerent and I do not think they ever raided Finland because they had some sympathy with them trying to get their territory back from Russia.

With respect to Jan's idea, it would be an improvement. However, I know another WW2 vet who was in the RAF and conducted night attacks in his fighter infiltrating the German bomber streams as they returned from the Blitz on London. He then shot up the German air bases in France as the bombers were landing so as to get a good number of planes damaged. So I would not like to see the Brits stopped from going the other way!

Just as an aside this guy learnt all the German night time recognition signals (flares) and wrote papers about it to the Air Ministry. This brought him to the attention of the Code Breakers at Bletchley Park and he ended up as being the Airforce link to Ultra in Italy providing breifings on the latest intelligence to Monty, Alexander, Spaatz etc. He later became a Professor of Egyptology decrypting hieroglyphs. He came to my house last year to give a talk on the Battle of Britain to a local Military History discussion group that I run. He had been PA to Keith Park who commanded the British Fighters in SE England during BOB and he gave me a photocopy of Keith Park's final report/assessment of the battle - as you see Military History and wargaming are my two hobbies.

Regards

Mike

RE: German fighters over Britain

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:25 am
by JanSorensen
ORIGINAL: mcaryf
With respect to Jan's idea, it would be an improvement. However, I know another WW2 vet who was in the RAF and conducted night attacks in his fighter infiltrating the German bomber streams as they returned from the Blitz on London. He then shot up the German air bases in France as the bombers were landing so as to get a good number of planes damaged. So I would not like to see the Brits stopped from going the other way!

Mike,

I think you missed the point of my suggestion. Going from England to W. France would cost 1 - just like going from W. France to England would. Try the change to the regions file I posted and have a look in game at the effect.

RE: German fighters over Britain

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:20 am
by WanderingHead
ORIGINAL: JanSorensen

A simpler solution if you want to facilitate BoB inb 1940 would be to:
- Make North Sea 9 to England cost 0 MP
- Make North Sea 9 to W. France cost 0 MP
- Retain England to North Sea 9 as 1 MP
- Retain W. France to North Sea 9 as 1 MP

The asymmetry, and general anomaly from all other movement (nowhere else is it free), would be quite confusing.

RE: German fighters over Britain

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:45 am
by JanSorensen
The asymetrical solution is indeed an oddity. I am not suggesting this as an official fix though - mere as something a mod could do. I think that difference is importent.

Its incorrect that nothing cost 0 MP though. Flying from an island to the surrounding sea-area (and vice-versa) costs 0 MP too. Thats the very reason its possible to make this change.