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RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:48 pm
by Mike Solli
Looks to me like this with the arrows showing the directions. I'm not sure about the ship on the right (if it really is a ship) though.

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RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:49 pm
by Mike Solli
Hmm, comparing the pictures, you may be right. That may be only one ship.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:49 pm
by rogueusmc
Marc has a match I think.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:53 pm
by Marc
Hm. The masts don't match.

I can find no japanese light cruiser with masts that fit to the picture.

I guess this picture was taken before WWII.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:54 pm
by Iridium
Yeah, smoke traveling against the direction of the stern water plume as well...

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:04 pm
by niceguy2005
Occording to Feinder there are two ships in the picture. Also, the ship looks a little small to be a CL.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:06 am
by Pascal_slith
From the looks of it, the one going to the right has only 2 stacks and the one going left has one stack. (Otherwise, if you think one has 3 then the other has none, which would really be strange).

How about this: a Japanese destroyer (single stack) crossing next to a Japanese seaplane tender in the Aleutians....

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:11 am
by Feinder
I thought it was two ships myself (but it's not). Here's a not so distorted pic...



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RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:02 am
by BLUESBOB
Going by the second picture, I'll say it's Isokaze class destroyer.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:16 am
by Iridium
Still having issues with the three stacks. No Japanese DD had that many to my knowledge (all two or one). While I say that, the freeboard of the ship doesn't suddenly drop aft of the bridge on any Japanese CL like that. After looking in my Janes '45 I still can't find an acceptable fit. I'd say it's either a very old DD or I have no clue.[:D]

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:25 am
by BLUESBOB
Looking through Conway's "All The Fighting Ships, 1906-1921", it looks like the Isokaze class destroyer. They had that sudden drop from the foredeck(?) to the afterdeck(?) right behind the bridge. They also had three stacks. Four were built, the Isokaze, the Umikaze, the Amatsukaze, and the Tokitsukaze. The last was used as a training ship and broken up in 1948.

So, my final answer is...the Tokitsukaze.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:28 am
by Iridium
Ah, this might explain why it's not showing up in Janes '45. Kinda figured it had to be around that age, no DD designed in the '30s on had more than 2 stacks. Plus the freeboard was a clue to it's general size. GJ on finding something at least possible on that photo.[&o]

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:31 am
by m10bob
CL Kinu after removal of catapult.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:32 am
by KDonovan
Bluesbob is right...its a Isokaze class DD...specifically the Amatsukaze DD



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RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:47 am
by BLUESBOB
ORIGINAL: KDonovan

Bluesbob is right...its a Isokaze class DD...specifically the Amatsukaze DD



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To quote Maxwell Smart, "Missed it by thiiisss much!"

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:59 am
by Feinder
I'm going to have to give it to you guys. It's the Tanikaze, sister ship of the Amatsukaze. I thought they were carried over from WW1 (there is a Tanikaze that is in WW2, but it's actually Kagero class).

Grrr.

That's twice I've screwed this up.

Here's the link I used...

Tanikaze at IJNDreamHost.Com

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:18 am
by tsimmonds
Definitely the Royal Nonesuch.....

This just shows how obscure you have to get to stump this crew.

RE: Mystery Ship #12

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:42 pm
by niceguy2005
Has anyone gotten this? It does not look like a CL to me. It doesn't really look like a fighting ship. I only see two large guns. Im guessing some sort of odd DD variant or very old DD.

Edit: Doh, just found the rest of the posts.