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RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:51 pm
by Afrika Korps
If this changes the Mech.exe, didn't Mike Wood say that was illegal in the Civil War Mod thread, thus he could not comment? Just wondering.
Either way, what does changing the numbers in the mech.exe do exactly? I don't get it. Isn't changing the OOB enough? Still learning how to customize stuff here, before I try my hand at design, so the more info I have the better. [:D]
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:35 pm
by FlashfyreSP
ORIGINAL: Afrika Korps
If this changes the Mech.exe, didn't Mike Wood say that was illegal in the Civil War Mod thread, thus he could not comment? Just wondering.
Either way, what does changing the numbers in the mech.exe do exactly? I don't get it. Isn't changing the OOB enough? Still learning how to customize stuff here, before I try my hand at design, so the more info I have the better. [:D]
The ratings we are talking about are the Experience and Morale for Leaders and Troops. These numbers are used with the Historical Ratings preference to represent the base Experience and Morale of the various nations' armies. Currently, these numbers are hard-coded in the mech.exe, and only a generalized change can be made by using the Preference section. The 7 ratings are separated for each year of the war; 1930-39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45 to 1949.
These numbers are not part of the OOB editing system; certain formation codes in the OOB will modify these ratings, such as Elite (+10% Exp/Mor) or Second-line (-10% Exp/Mor), but the ratings themselves can't be changed.
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:45 pm
by Alby
ORIGINAL: Afrika Korps
If this changes the Mech.exe, didn't Mike Wood say that was illegal in the Civil War Mod thread, thus he could not comment? Just wondering. [:D]
H2H changed the ratings plus alot of other stuff in the mech.exe.
I am Cornfused
[&:]
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:35 am
by m10bob
Desert Rat...Thank you for the kindness of your great editor.
Please do not be put off by the treatment of anybody who might have shown insensitivity to your initial release of the editor...It has been wanted by so many for so long, the remarks made might have even been spurred by jeolousy ?
Nobody "died and left anybody boss", so you should just take this criticism with a true grain of salt.
Obviously, the rest of us applaud your efforts.
KG himself is not a bad sort, he has himself devoted a lot of time to altering aspects of the game, and nobody has considered his work "spam" or such.
Apoligising, has not been a natural thing for him in the past, nothing against him, its' just how he was brought up, (I suspect?).[:(]
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:02 pm
by soldier
Some excellent work there Desert Rat. You have saved 8.4.b
Now Mussolini can again dream of a southern empire. Romania can test its mettle against the horde and Poland and France will Resist.
H2H values included, very cool
Now lets see you guys drive T34 s and BT's through the forest past my weremacht troops .... KAPOW !
HOOOHAAAAHAAA
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:35 am
by Bernie
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
Have you sent a copy of this to the game's programmer, to get his opinion on it?
Is this thing guaranteed to work ?
[If it ISN'T guaranteed, then your thread is SPAM, and it has no business being here. ] *
*Addendum: after a few minor flaws were fixed, the program IS safe to use, so my concerns are no longer applicable.
Glenn, you never cease to amaze me... [8|]
"Safe to drive"??? Get REAL! It's a
program, not a backyard built sportscar you're thinking of taking for a cruise down the interstate. As with any program downloaded from the Internet, you use it, with caution, at your own risk. Some simple procedures, like using a virus scanner and testing it on a
copy of the mech.exe will minimize that risk.
As for Mike needing to "look under the hood" before it can be "released", that would only apply if MG decided to somehow "sanction" the program, or otherwise endorse it. As it stands, it's a tool, freely developed and offered with no warranty or guarantees, that you are free to use, or not use, as you choose. The author of the tool does not claim any affiliation with MG, nor does he even suggest or imply that the tool is endorsed or sanctioned by them. As far as I can see, his tool violates no copyrights or trademarks, so just how, and why, should MG even bother getting involved with it?
And, the last time I checked, "SPAM" was a registered trademark of the Hormel Corporation, and should only be used with their permission. Perhaps you should let them "look under the hood" of your posts, before you "release" them?
TDR, your work is appreciated and valued by the vast majority of the SP:WaW community. I know Glenn's comments ticked you off, and you're angry and upset right now, but how about stepping back, taking a break, then rejoining us at a later date?
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:37 am
by Warhorse
WOW!!! Anyhow, I like the mechedit program, kudos DR!!! Also, a oob editor version 5 was mentioned, where do I get this at???!!!!!!
Mike
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:04 am
by Alby
ORIGINAL: Warhorse
WOW!!! Anyhow, I like the mechedit program, kudos DR!!! Also, a oob editor version 5 was mentioned, where do I get this at???!!!!!!
Mike
Mike it comes with the 8.403 patch
in the members area
I will email to you
You've got mail!!!
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:02 am
by David Heath
Hi Everyone
for the record I am talking with Mike Wood and Bernie now and we have some answers for you soon. But for the record I do not find this thread to be spam.
David
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:06 am
by Orzel Bialy
Thanks for helping "calm the waters" David. [:)]
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:13 am
by David Heath
Hi Everyone Again
Just talked with Mike Wood and Bernie. Matrix Games does not warrantee MechEdit in any fashion, but the executable has been authorized by Matrix Games so there is no foul in using it.
So go have Fun...
David
RE: New Editor for some fun!!
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:24 am
by Alby
Thanks for your posts David.
[:)]
Just a shame that it got all blown up the way it did.
[:(]
Oh well back to working on the SPWAW Multi Mod
[:D]