Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 9:18 am
Cheers, Sniper <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
Nothing like a bit of heated debate that ends well.
You are definitely right about this game. I'll bet the gaming industry is thanking their lucky stars that most gamers aren't Steel Panthers fans. This game, thanks to the Matrix guys and those that preceded them, such as editor pioneers like Jim Bello, has had so much staying power with the serious SP players that the game manufacturers would have gone out of business for lack of sales in the last five years.
Granted, I've bought other games (Campaign series games, Shogun, Cossacks, Age of Empires series), but I keep coming right back (in a very short amount of time) to SP.
The book publishing industry has definitely benefitted from this game, though. I've bought many a book just to research a scenario. In fact, in the last month, I've bought three books on the US airborne portion of Market Garden, just for research material. Hell, I bought Major and Mrs. Holt's tour of the Market Garden Battlefields on the day my second daughter was born, right after I bought my wife flowers!
Am I a purist? Damned right! I'm a map purist. I believe it is purists that provide the long-term foundation of this community, whether they be purist from the OoB area, the penetration/impact angle crowd, the editor guys like Fred Chlanda and Rockin'Harry, or the icon guys like Mike Amos, just to name a few.
It takes guys who are nuts about their particular favorite area to have moved this game forward to where it is today. Just go back and load Steel Panthers I onto your computer, If your computer will run it, to see how far it has come. Remember, Grey tanks represented Germans and neon green represented US forces. If there weren't people who weren't anal retentive about authenticity and detail in a lot of different areas, we'd still be there. No, we wouldn't because we'd all be playing something else by now.
And, yes, Fred Chlanda and his editor is one of the foundation stones of this community. I remember when I first checked out Fred's programs. I thought, "What in the heck is this???". When you figure out what you can do with it, you'll look at it in a whole new light.
So, since you're into Warcraft and SPWAW, when are they going to come out with a game that allows us to play the War of the Rings in one big, turn-based, 2,000 x 2,000 hex map, multi-player campaign?
Regards,
David Boutwell
Nothing like a bit of heated debate that ends well.
You are definitely right about this game. I'll bet the gaming industry is thanking their lucky stars that most gamers aren't Steel Panthers fans. This game, thanks to the Matrix guys and those that preceded them, such as editor pioneers like Jim Bello, has had so much staying power with the serious SP players that the game manufacturers would have gone out of business for lack of sales in the last five years.
Granted, I've bought other games (Campaign series games, Shogun, Cossacks, Age of Empires series), but I keep coming right back (in a very short amount of time) to SP.
The book publishing industry has definitely benefitted from this game, though. I've bought many a book just to research a scenario. In fact, in the last month, I've bought three books on the US airborne portion of Market Garden, just for research material. Hell, I bought Major and Mrs. Holt's tour of the Market Garden Battlefields on the day my second daughter was born, right after I bought my wife flowers!
Am I a purist? Damned right! I'm a map purist. I believe it is purists that provide the long-term foundation of this community, whether they be purist from the OoB area, the penetration/impact angle crowd, the editor guys like Fred Chlanda and Rockin'Harry, or the icon guys like Mike Amos, just to name a few.
It takes guys who are nuts about their particular favorite area to have moved this game forward to where it is today. Just go back and load Steel Panthers I onto your computer, If your computer will run it, to see how far it has come. Remember, Grey tanks represented Germans and neon green represented US forces. If there weren't people who weren't anal retentive about authenticity and detail in a lot of different areas, we'd still be there. No, we wouldn't because we'd all be playing something else by now.
And, yes, Fred Chlanda and his editor is one of the foundation stones of this community. I remember when I first checked out Fred's programs. I thought, "What in the heck is this???". When you figure out what you can do with it, you'll look at it in a whole new light.
So, since you're into Warcraft and SPWAW, when are they going to come out with a game that allows us to play the War of the Rings in one big, turn-based, 2,000 x 2,000 hex map, multi-player campaign?
Regards,
David Boutwell