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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
You got something against RTS?

Anyone who indulges in RTS is not a wargamer and is a traitor to the cause of keeping wargaming alive.

"RTS" itself is a blatant lie, because anything that takes place in "real time" would take too long to be a playable game. "RTS" just describes game engines that allow the game to play while the poor wargamer has to sit and fiddle with his dingy - i mean, "joystick" - in order to try and keep up with events that are being depicted in a time flow so much faster than real time that the player cannot keep up with the computer's superior informatiion crunching speed.

Just imagine Napoleon - "Jeez, I gotta figure out in ten seconds how to counter Charles's apparent thrust at my left flank, a move that took two days in reality, whatever that used to be before I became a RTS general."

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

Anyone who indulges in RTS is not a wargamer and is a traitor to the cause of keeping wargaming alive.

In that case I'm traitor and I'm sure I'm not only one around here.

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

"RTS" itself is a blatant lie, because anything that takes place in "real time" would take too long to be a playable game.
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Just imagine Napoleon - "Jeez, I gotta figure out in ten seconds how to counter Charles's apparent thrust at my left flank, a move that took two days in reality, whatever that used to be before I became a RTS general."

What game are you referring to? Is it Fields of Glory by MicroProse? How about Total War and Close Combat series? I thougth those games are reasonably close of real time and not too long either.

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Even though games like Command & Conquer and Total Annihilation aren't realistic (in time or otherwise), they are fun to play and that is most important thing of any game.

Favorite wargames:

1: Close Combat 1
2: Rest of close combat series
3: UV/WitP
4: Crown of Glory
5: Pirates -- the original when I had a commodore 128
6: Birth of America
7: Battles of Napoleon
8: Darklands by Microprose

I'd say these are my favorites. Some I no longer play but the memories of some are very good.

Board games:

Advanced third reich
Axis and allies

Sid Meier's Gettysburg! was my favorite wargame ever. Of course it was RTS, but then all the best wargames are.

1. comp wargame ( the on the that gave/gives the most pleasure)

2. Boardgame

3. RPG

4. Tabletop

5. In the bath (keep it clean boys!!)

1. Mech Brigade or Imperialism 2
2. Titan
3. Wizard's Crown or Baldur's Gate 1 or 2
4. SFB
5. Can't remember that far back

Very difficult to say just one...

1. TS's Battleground series - it was the search to find out if the games were ever going to be updated that lead me to Matrix...

2. AH's ASL

3. have yet to delve into this genre

4. FASA's BattleTech by default; only tabletop I've earnestly played

5. "Battlefleet" - had a nice collection of plastic warships as a kid...

Ask me tomorrow and numbers 1 & 2 will be different. Avalon Hill broke me into war gaming when as a ten year old I found "Gettysburg" in my Aunt's hallway closet; now a sentimental favorite. As soon as I figure out how to maneuver a &*%$ phalanx around a battle field, TS: ATG has the potential to move up the charts...

Age of Rifles. OMG I loved that game!