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RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:55 am
by Knavey
ORIGINAL: Feinder

I think she was broken up (litterally). I remember she was in New Orleans, back in about 96. She was at a bend of the Mississippi, and I could see her from a cruise ship. Was on my list to go see, but we didn't get to.

My brother lived in NO at the time. Said about about a year later, a barge coming down the Mississippi didn't make the turn, and smashed into the Cabot. I'm pretty sure they had to scrap her.

Whenevery Knavey wakes up, he'll probably chime in...

-F-


Here's the info on the barge...

Almost a year later (1997), as the bulk carrier M/V Tomis Future was steaming downriver, her pilot brought her too close to the east bank, and she collided(1) with the Cabot, substantially damaging both the Cabot and the Wharf. The owner of the Tomis Future called out emergency response tugs to berth that vessel and to secure the Cabot against the Wharf. After Commander Daniel Whiting, the Coast Guard's Chief of Port Operations, inspected the damage, the Coast Guard again became concerned for the safety of the Cabot's moor, particularly because the Mississippi was running high. Three days after the allision, Captain Marsh issued another order under 33 U.S.C. Chapter 25, requiring the Foundation to hire a tug to stand by the Cabot and, within three days, to move the Cabot "to a safe hurricane mooring site" or a "robust hurricane mooring location." The next day, the owner of the Tomis Future took his tugs off hire and his vessel departed the port (without posting adequate security).


(* got it off the site posting the actual lawsuit *)

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The private groups attempting to preserve her as a memorial were unable to pay creditors, so, on 10 September 1999, the ship was auctioned off by the U.S. Marshal's Service to Sabe Marine Salvage. Scrapping of the hulk was completed in 2002.



-F-


Yuppers. What Fiender said. Was a stupid place to park a ship...right at a 90 degree turn on the biggest river in the US. Something big was bound to hit her there.


RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:52 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: dtravel

[8|]

What makes the whole Iowa berthing bit even more insulting is the Bay Area's long history with and dependance on the military. Every county had multiple bases before the post-Cold War budget slashings. Most of everything that the military sent to the Pacific through the entire country's history went thru here. And now all of a sudden we're snubbing our noses at them!

Bah!! *mutter mutter mutter*

As far as making a memorial to the ship...I would want to attend any function which might in its' audience include the likes of Bob Hope, John Wayne, George Patton, George Washington, Harry Truman, FDR, etc..
The people not wanting the ship there might feel uncomfortable in that group..
Wonder if the town mothers (like the mayor) care the entire country knows that city as "San Franfreako"......????

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:46 am
by dtravel
Mbob, this is the home of the Gay Pride Parade. Some of the political powers here take that kind of rep as a badge of pride.

Ron, the Hornet is across the bay next to where the Alameda NAS used to be. I haven't been on board her myself, just like all the New Yorkers who've never seen the Statue of Liberty. [:'(] I really should, but not for a few days at least. We're in the middle of Noah's forty days and forty nights right now.

(Seriously, we just set a new record for the most days of rain in March. 22 days of rain, beating a century old record. And April is looking like its heading the same way. We've got entire small towns sliding down hillsides and highways disappearing down mountain slopes. I'm going to at least wait until the river flowing out of the basement of my apartment building dries up before trying to go anywhere I don't have to.)

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:42 pm
by Feinder
And here we are Tampa, without -any- rain registered for the entire month of March.

We're just saving up for Hurricane Season.

-F-

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:31 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Feinder

And here we are Tampa, without -any- rain registered for the entire month of March.

We're just saving up for Hurricane Season.

-F-

Considering what last Hurricane Season was like, it was nice knowing you, Feinder! [:D]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:50 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel

Mbob, this is the home of the Gay Pride Parade. Some of the political powers here take that kind of rep as a badge of pride.

Ron, the Hornet is across the bay next to where the Alameda NAS used to be. I haven't been on board her myself, just like all the New Yorkers who've never seen the Statue of Liberty. [:'(] I really should, but not for a few days at least. We're in the middle of Noah's forty days and forty nights right now.

(Seriously, we just set a new record for the most days of rain in March. 22 days of rain, beating a century old record. And April is looking like its heading the same way. We've got entire small towns sliding down hillsides and highways disappearing down mountain slopes. I'm going to at least wait until the river flowing out of the basement of my apartment building dries up before trying to go anywhere I don't have to.)

I sense a digital photo shoot of the Hornet coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![:D][&o] Some mime bashing photos would be welcome as well.[;)]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:46 pm
by mlees
Some mime bashing photos would be welcome as well.

Lol! In the US, even the mimes have lawyers!

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:03 am
by Zorfwaddle
I was there the same time as you Chez, and I have the same recollection's. I do remember how cool it was to see the Harriers doing their hovering bit. Of course, I was 13-15 years old :-). My dad was stationed at the "bullring." Rota was a great place to be at 13-15 <<sigh>>

George

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:04 am
by Ron Saueracker
The latest Canadian naval museum. I'm a little bit leary that an artificial reef society is in charge of it though!!!![X(]

HMCS Fraser DDE/DDH 233

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:45 am
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel

Mbob, this is the home of the Gay Pride Parade. Some of the political powers here take that kind of rep as a badge of pride.

Ron, the Hornet is across the bay next to where the Alameda NAS used to be. I haven't been on board her myself, just like all the New Yorkers who've never seen the Statue of Liberty. [:'(] I really should, but not for a few days at least. We're in the middle of Noah's forty days and forty nights right now.

(Seriously, we just set a new record for the most days of rain in March. 22 days of rain, beating a century old record. And April is looking like its heading the same way. We've got entire small towns sliding down hillsides and highways disappearing down mountain slopes. I'm going to at least wait until the river flowing out of the basement of my apartment building dries up before trying to go anywhere I don't have to.)

I sense a digital photo shoot of the Hornet coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![:D][&o] Some mime bashing photos would be welcome as well.[;)]

You think I am just so easy, don't you? [:-]

As for the mime bashing, I think they all got washed out to sea. (Mime bashing??? [&:] Where the bleep did that come from?)

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:34 am
by m10bob
(Mime bashing??? Where the bleep did that come from?)

I was wondering the same thing??
Maybe "mime" means something else in Canada??[:D]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:06 am
by Ron Saueracker
I don't know anyone who likes mimes. Frisco is a hotbed for the mute little artistic punters is it not? Lots of "those people who like to parade their sexual deviances" = lots of those chalk faced puffs.[;)]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:40 am
by ChezDaJez
Rota was a great place to be at 13-15 <<sigh>>

It was an equally great place to be a young, single twenty-something year old sailor! [&o]

At least until the Gator Navy pulled in![:-]

Chez

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:56 am
by FeurerKrieg
As a Bay area resident (Fremont, CA) I was very much pissed about the Iowa thing. I wish I lived in the SF city limis just so I could at least put my one vote against those clowns.

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:43 am
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I don't know anyone who likes mimes. Frisco is a hotbed for the mute little artistic punters is it not?

Uh, nope. All the "residentially challenged citizens" scared them away years and years ago.

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:49 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I don't know anyone who likes mimes. Frisco is a hotbed for the mute little artistic punters is it not?

Uh, nope. All the "residentially challenged citizens" scared them away years and years ago.

Dirtied someone elses yard ,eh? Frigging leaf blowers![:D]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:04 pm
by m10bob
Living in the midwest, my personal knowledge of Frisco is the one I saw in the movies..."Bullitt", old Bogart films, etc, but some friends of mine tell me how entire neighborhoods of filth and vermin have been allowed to "ooze" out, old neighborhoods like Castro and the Mission district..Real shame.
Anytime deviance is accepted under a new label like "lifestyle", its' never a good thing.....
Have fun now...There IS a day coming...........

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:52 pm
by Terminus
ORIGINAL: m10bob

Living in the midwest, my personal knowledge of Frisco is the one I saw in the movies..."Bullitt", old Bogart films, etc, but some friends of mine tell me how entire neighborhoods of filth and vermin have been allowed to "ooze" out, old neighborhoods like Castro and the Mission district..Real shame.
Anytime deviance is accepted under a new label like "lifestyle", its' never a good thing.....
Have fun now...There IS a day coming...........

Let's keep the politics to a low roar, shall we? Better for the forum that way...

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:18 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Living in the midwest, my personal knowledge of Frisco is the one I saw in the movies..."Bullitt", old Bogart films, etc, but some friends of mine tell me how entire neighborhoods of filth and vermin have been allowed to "ooze" out, old neighborhoods like Castro and the Mission district..Real shame.
Anytime deviance is accepted under a new label like "lifestyle", its' never a good thing.....
Have fun now...There IS a day coming...........

Let's keep the politics to a low roar, shall we? Better for the forum that way...

Boy, oh boy...We try to have a nice conversation about a city in WITP, discussing different forms of supply and personell matters, and somebody always has to mention "politics"!!

(Lurks off...trying to look innocent)....[8|]

RE: WW2 CVL Cabot survives!!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:46 pm
by dtravel
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I don't know anyone who likes mimes. Frisco is a hotbed for the mute little artistic punters is it not?

Uh, nope. All the "residentially challenged citizens" scared them away years and years ago.

Dirtied someone elses yard ,eh? Frigging leaf blowers![:D]

"Dirtied someone elses yard" would have been a massive improvement. Civic Center Plaza is right in the middle of all the area where all the city's government buildings are and is directly in front of City Hall. A few years ago the local news programs were reporting, complete with pixilated video from mid-day, on how the homeless in the plaza were routinely using the fountain in the center as their toilet.

I am all for diversity and tolerance, but not all "lifestyles" are equal. [8|]