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ORIGINAL: BigJ62

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


In order to be helped by the presence of an AR, the damaged ship must be disbanded into a port. The AR itself need not be disbanded into the port but may be in a task force at the port.

Does this also apply to AS, AD and AGP ships as well. Also the manual doesn't specify what ships they
can repair and service, I assume AS repairs only subs, AD repairs only DDs and so-on. BTW great job
on the patch.

Thanks...

ORIGINAL: Arkady

ORIGINAL: The Duke

What effect does a Fleet HQ have on repair?

So, the contributing variables to ship repair I see are:

1) port size
2) ARs
3) repair shipyard/available repair points
4) fleet HQ (would multiple fleet HQ improve repair more?)
5) supply???

yep but order of importance should be as follows
1) port size
2) fleet hq (number of support squads/50 increase port size by one level for repair check)
3) AR (increase port size for repair chech by one level, each AR can support four ships, max four ARs counted)
4) Tender ship (Tender ship for DD, PT or Subs can increase port size for repair check by 2 levels !, each tender ship can support two ships, max four tenders of each type counted)
5) acumulated repair points (they are used ONLY if ship passed previous reapir check and one point of damage is repaired, then if repair points are equal or greater then ships's durability additional sys damage point is removed and repair points equal to ship's durability are expended)

I have no proof about supplies at the base affect ship's repairs, maybe except effectivness of fleet HQ...

Does this also apply to AS, AD and AGP ships as well

ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: dtravel

We have conflicting claims on when ARs will work then. Some people say as long as they are in the same hex, regardless of whether there is even a base or not. Others in any base, regardless of size or disband status. And some say only when disbanded.

This is the kind of information that is supposed to included in the manual!

d, this is confusing, but last I heard ARs had to be disbanded at the port to help.

Heard from who? There is a lot of guessing going on among players and there was some incorrect information distributed on other subjects by Matrix/2by3 reps. This is why I'm doing my statistical study on ship repair, because there is so much conflicting information floating around. As it is, measuring the effect of ARs is already so hard to do that we may never be able to determine what the correct answer is by observation.

This is part of why I am so angered by the WiTP manual. In this case, we're not asking for formulas or optimal tactics. We're just trying to figure out the program mechanics to use something for its intended purpose!

ORIGINAL: Arkady

can me point to thread where are methods and results of this testing described, please

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

d, I suppose Don answered this question for us.

However, my statement above was based on previous Threads I had read on this topic as it seems to come up every other month or so.

Obviously the key is having a size 3 port as a player is likely to disband both the ship and the AR into the port.

I want to give the designers credit for this rule. To me it makes perfect sense that
1. You need a minimal size port to effectively repair a ship.
2. You need to disband (or dock the ship) at the port
3. You need the AR present, but it really doesn't need to be disbanded (though I don't know why you wouldn't).

ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Arkady

can me point to thread where are methods and results of this testing described, please

Testing is still underway, but data collected to date is in the attached spreadsheet (in zip file). Ship Repair.zip

A quick check of Los Angeles, San Diego & Seattle are the easiest places to see, but once you know what to look for it can be observed in any of the ports with repair shipyards.

EDIT: Here is the link to my first posting of these number back in December fb.asp?m=1009720&key=hard%2Cnumbers

ORIGINAL: Arkady

ORIGINAL: dtravel

ORIGINAL: Arkady

can me point to thread where are methods and results of this testing described, please

Testing is still underway, but data collected to date is in the attached spreadsheet (in zip file). Ship Repair.zip

A quick check of Los Angeles, San Diego & Seattle are the easiest places to see, but once you know what to look for it can be observed in any of the ports with repair shipyards.

EDIT: Here is the link to my first posting of these number back in December fb.asp?m=1009720&key=hard%2Cnumbers

thanks
I already setup my own test (with Tutorial scenario) and you are right

Additional it seems that repairs with Repair Points are checked twice a day so you can reapir three points per day