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RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:01 am
by Alby
Wow thats right, it wasnt just a protype, sort of, about 50 or so made with porsche turret.
Hell this thing ought to be in the German OOB!!
[:)]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:24 am
by Don Doom
ORIGINAL: Alby
Wow thats right, it wasnt just a protype, about 50 or so made with porsche turret?
Hell this thing ought to be in the German OOB!!
[:)]
"Krupp had designed the turrets to fit both the Porsche and Henschel chassis. The initial design called P-2 Turm (or commonly known as Porsche turret) mounted a single piece (monobloc) barrel of the 88mm and had a curved mantlet in the front. The front armor was 100 mm thick, the sides were 88mm thick sloped at 60 degrees and the top armor was 40mm thick. It had space to carry 16 rounds of ammunition in the turret. However, the curved mantlet in the front acted as a shot trap by deflecting incoming shots downwards towards the roof of the hull.
A new design was ordered to fix this but as an interim measure, it was decided to go ahead with the production of 50 units with this turret. This was commonly referred to as Porsche turret. The new design called Serien Turm, or commonly known as Henschel or Production turret was to retain the many features of the Porsche turret and was to be adopted for mass production. Henschel turret had the front curved mantlet replaced with one 180mm thick armor plate sloped at 81 degrees. The sides were altered to slope at 69 degrees and it could carry an additional 6 six rounds or 22 rounds of ammunition in the turret. The full combat weight was 68,500kg when fitted with the Porsche turret and 69,800kg with the Henschel turret."
Quote from:
http://www.worldwar2aces.com/
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:25 am
by Alby
ORIGINAL: Don Doom
ORIGINAL: Alby
Wow thats right, it wasnt just a protype, about 50 or so made with porsche turret?
Hell this thing ought to be in the German OOB!!
[:)]
"Krupp had designed the turrets to fit both the Porsche and Henschel chassis. The initial design called P-2 Turm (or commonly known as Porsche turret) mounted a single piece (monobloc) barrel of the 88mm and had a curved mantlet in the front. The front armor was 100 mm thick, the sides were 88mm thick sloped at 60 degrees and the top armor was 40mm thick. It had space to carry 16 rounds of ammunition in the turret. However, the curved mantlet in the front acted as a shot trap by deflecting incoming shots downwards towards the roof of the hull.
A new design was ordered to fix this but as an interim measure, it was decided to go ahead with the production of 50 units with this turret. This was commonly referred to as Porsche turret. The new design called Serien Turm, or commonly known as Henschel or Production turret was to retain the many features of the Porsche turret and was to be adopted for mass production. Henschel turret had the front curved mantlet replaced with one 180mm thick armor plate sloped at 81 degrees. The sides were altered to slope at 69 degrees and it could carry an additional 6 six rounds or 22 rounds of ammunition in the turret. The full combat weight was 68,500kg when fitted with the Porsche turret and 69,800kg with the Henschel turret."
Quote from:
http://www.worldwar2aces.com/
hehe I read same exact thing at different site.
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:28 am
by Don Doom
Figured it was faster then me find the dozen or so panzer books I have and type in a quote![:D]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:30 am
by Alby
Good catch there Don
[:)]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:39 am
by Don Doom
try to help most times.[;)][:D]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:39 am
by forgorin
Damn. Looks like I dont get any goodies then[:@]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:44 am
by Don Doom
ORIGINAL: forgorin
Damn. Looks like I dont get any goodies then[:@]
Well he did not delete any just moved them around thats all.[;)]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:26 am
by Alby
ORIGINAL: Don Doom
ORIGINAL: forgorin
Damn. Looks like I dont get any goodies then[:@]
Well he did not delete any just moved them around thats all.[;)]
I sent them home where they belong
[:)]
You can have your thread back now Gunny
[:D]
RE: Constructing Multi-national Core Forces
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:47 am
by forgorin
I know. Now it feels a bit like theft! Oh well I guess the Germans arnt against shairing a little![:D]