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RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:46 am
by Twotribes
Your list appears incomplete. I dont see the 4th Marine Regiment. And it would appear all the tank companies were light companies, doubt they had M-3 medium tanks in their TOE.
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:18 pm
by Mark Ezra
Sorry about the Marines. The list is of US Army forces on Dec 7th and, of course, is composed by the US Navy...LOL...here's the link
http://www.navsource.org/Naval/usarmy.htm
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:26 pm
by Mark Ezra
There is a very nice article about the boys of Co C 194th Tank Battalion (light)
It makes note of the M3 Stuart and M3 GMC but no mention of Medium tanks of any kind. It is a short, good read and has a couple of interesting small unit actions that might make a good scen.
http://www.militarymuseum.org/Bataan.html
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:00 pm
by h_h_lightcap
Mark,
Nice Firesign reference in your signature!!!! dont forget we are all bozos on this bus!!
Deputy Dan es su amigo.
HH
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:02 pm
by Twotribes
Thanks I may play a PI campaign as American units. Why are the PI Scouts listed under American units though? Are they Filipino or American troops?
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:29 pm
by Mark Ezra
h_h_lightcap: My God it has finally happened!! You are the very first to get the signature...LOL..are you sure you're not Nick Danger??
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:32 pm
by Mark Ezra
Twotribes: PI Scouts were Filipino under US command.
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:09 pm
by FlashfyreSP
The Philippine Scouts were Philippine soldiers commanded by US Army officers. They have often been referred to as America's "colonial troops", but this is inaccurate. They were formed early in the Philippine Occupation after the Spanish-American War, and after WW1 were inducted into the US Army Forces.
For more info, see:
Philippine Scouts
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:45 pm
by Twotribes
Why are the PI Scouts included in the PI OOB if infact they were under command and control of the US Army? I guess it is easier and I note you gave them the 10 percent boost. I will agree it would be confusing to have them in the American OOB. But not knowing they were actually part of the US Army is confusing also.
Next question? Did the Scouts Regiments/Battalions have weapons companies and attached support units like AA and AT guns, as well as Artillery?
Another question? How do I go about using the campaign game to play a PI scenario? Do I have to make my own? PI is not one of the countries in long campaign obviously and when I pick them as a generated one if I dont pick jungle as terrain the time frame gives me snow.
RE: M-3 Medium Tank use in the Pacific
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:02 pm
by FlashfyreSP
ORIGINAL: Twotribes
Why are the PI Scouts included in the PI OOB if infact they were under command and control of the US Army? I guess it is easier and I note you gave them the 10 percent boost. I will agree it would be confusing to have them in the American OOB. But not knowing they were actually part of the US Army is confusing also.
Next question? Did the Scouts Regiments/Battalions have weapons companies and attached support units like AA and AT guns, as well as Artillery?
Another question? How do I go about using the campaign game to play a PI scenario? Do I have to make my own? PI is not one of the countries in long campaign obviously and when I pick them as a generated one if I dont pick jungle as terrain the time frame gives me snow.
Well, there is no room in the US OOB for the PS units. And while they were in fact part of the US Army, they were not allowed to be deployed outside the Philippine Islands. Also, some of their officers and NCOs were Filipinos as well. There force structure was comparable to the US light infantry forces, with limted support weapons. 30cal MGs, 37mm ATGs, mortars, light field artillery (horse-drawn), and horse cavalry.
To use them in the generated WWII campaign, you'll need to start as US, then change nations in the Purchase screen to PI and buy your core. You'll "seem" to be playing US, as the flags and everything will reflect that, but you can run it with all PI forces.