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ORIGINAL: Charles_22

Apollo11: Can I ask you a question?

Why is it we see books that say "World War II" and then they extend the productiuon figures BEYOND WWII? What's the point in that? The problem is, probably in your case as well, that they give the figure for 3 months beyond the war and therefore pad the figures. It's nice to know they were still producing them, but I've seen this sort of thing with the USSR too. They will compare German production of war material to the USSR and then show you figures of USSR production that went past the time Germany was in the war, therefore, padding the USSR figures. It's like the victor gets padding rights. At least in the USSR's case they were fighting Japan, but in such a case the production comparison to Germany should be switched off while the comparison to Japan is switched on.

Perhaps the stats you see list it this way and so you don't have any choice and can't break it down to early August of '45 for both sides, but it is very bogus to compare two nations who were at war with each other and then add up post-conflict figures for the victor and ignoring any the vanquished may had still been producing, which in most cases I would imagine was close to halted by the victor. It's just not a fair comparison. The whole point of any such comparison anyway, is to see what they were producing "during" the war (and perhaps before). I can somewhat see the argument that the victor was still producing a few months beyond that for the same conflict, and thereafter was producing for any future conflicts, but it does conflict with an honest analysis of what the two sides had to fight with IMO.

ORIGINAL: RevRick

Another obvious point to reduce the discrepancy would be that some would be no longer active because they were replaced by later models - F6F-5s instead of F6F-3s.

But, there is another error which should be noted.
"Now, I have number for whole Hellcat production (including all subtypes) which is 12275 (from 30 September of 1942 till 16 November 1945).

Note that in this 25 and half months it means that average monthly production was 481 units."

Now unless the calendar has changed from 30 September 1942 to 16 November 1945 is actually 37 and a half months. Which means that the monthly production figure (on average) would be 327.333 units. I think the real discrepancy would be why in the name of.. well, you know... would the USN build 144 night fighters a month. I think the 288 Hellcats produced in game turns would have been distributed a little differently, say like 216/72, or even 240/48.

Also, remember that some of the Squadrons show up fully or partially equipped. All of the units don't have to be fleshed out.